Is it festival icy burst or festival frost or the festival cold touch that loewrs lvl?

Look at my thread in the secret forum.

Why would you reference your 'secret forum' post in a public forum? God what a fucking tool.

DDOcrackhead wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:


It's really not a secret.

Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:


Guess the Exploit Board is definitely not in your future...

Not what I meant... if you have access to the boards, you more then likely already read the thread and don't need the reference. If you don't have access, then the thread reference is irrelevant.

By referencing the thread, it's another "look at me, I have access you don't" attention grab.

Starkjade wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

This year, only three threads are about it. Way down from last year, if I recall.

Cold touch = no ML change.
Frost = weapons at ML 20 or below lose 2 ML.
Icy = weapons at ML 20 or below lose an additional 2 ML.

Nothing from the Eveningstar Altar reduces ML.

Glaciation increases an item's Absolute ML to the "normal" ML for that level of glaciation. (Glaciation 60 = Absolute ML 10.)

The Eveningstar Altar accepts cosmetics.


Advanced:

Cold touch replaces festival frost and icy. It also replaces normal frost, but not Frost II and above.
Cold touch does not remove normal glaciation. (This is different from last year.) It does remove festival glaciation. (A "normal" glaciation 60 scepter can be reduced 4 MLs, for example, once icy is applied.)

Neither festival frost nor icy affect the ML of race restricted weapons.
All rangen loot with mastercrafted or wondrous are guaranteed to be ML affected. (Unless said weapon is race restricted.)

Pre-ghostbaned weapons sometimes have their ML reduced, but more often not. I have not been able to determine a way to tell beforehand. (Ollie, now calling himself Vendui, has stated before that he can tell. He even tried to explain it to me, but I did not understand. Or he was full of shit. Take your pick.)

Epic Weapons: All weapons at ML 21 and above change 1 ML instead of 2 ML. Otherwise, same rules apply. If festival frost takes a weapon to ML 20, icy will then take it to ML 18.

There is an issue that is not exclusive to repeating crossbows, but as far as I can tell, is more prevalent with them: Festival frost reduces their ML by 2, but then Icy does not reduce it further. I have not been able to determine why. I have seen it happen on one longsword, and 8-10 different repeaters, both heavy and light.

If the weapon has one of paralyzing, smiting, banishing, or vorpal, and a heroic ML (but not mastercrafted), it can still be reduced, but odds are strongly against it.

Epic ML throwers get rejected by the altar. Some, but not all, throwers that are mastercrafted or wondrous & would have been epic otherwise are also rejected by the altars. I don't know why. This applies to non-throwers too, apparently, but much less frequently. (I had the Risia altar reject one wondercrafted bastard sword. I haven't had a sample size large enough to tell anything at all other than it happened once.)

I don't have access to a mirror of glamering, so I don't know whether the Harbor (or Eveningstar) altar accepts cosmetic weapons. (I'd love to know, if you're handing out knowledge, or mirrors.)

Brac wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 12:45am:

Pft. There are no tricks involved. All of this happens upon normal interface with the altars.

Now if only there was a reason to ever use random gen weapons...

Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 3:46am:

No.

Or rather, complete and total bullshit, unless you mean 2 lvls of ML combined between Frost and Icy. In which case, your wording is just misleading. The augment thing is up for debate unless you've tested it? For example, weapons don't lose their "epic" or "paragon" status, and that is theoretically related.


Who Cares wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 4:27am:

Thanks! Good to know. I'm still curious whether there's a difference between a cosmetic glamered from a named item, and one from a rangen item. The Eveningstar altar already accepts many named and crafted items, so mainly I'm just curious about the Harbor altar.

And now I also wonder if glamered cosmetics still work with Stone of Change rituals.

Stop being a douche. I had a ML28 waraxe. I put the touch, then frost, then burst on it. It is now ML26. Take care of the whole 'misleading' for you, or are you still on the fence?

Fucking douche

And yes, several augments die effect is based on how many levels the weapon has, so if your weapon drops from 28 to 26, then you will be losing 2 die of potential damage. Granted it's off the top, and you rarely see max damage off them anyways, and some are more useful for their secondary proc then the initial damage.

Revaulting wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:57am:

Who Cares wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

Go ahead and be reasonable all you want. It still doesn't get my questions answered. I swear, this is why people with common sense make shitty scientists.

Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

Thank you, that answers both questions. We agree on the first, and disagree on the second. Not that I'm saying you won't turn out to be right. It could be a good guess. You have good reasons.

But this is Turbine we're talking about.

Oh, and that was pretty douchey, huh? I will be a douche. Sorry it got under your skin. I hear that's where it does the best cleaning.