gawker wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:


I have wondered about things like this. I know nothing about kickstarter really, but in these scenarios is anyone required to give back the money?

Dr_tank2vich wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 10:49pm:

If it did, it would have been funded already! 

I do wonder how contractual the pledges are.
You see lots of telethons raising money where a large % of donations are never received.

I see there are two $10k pledges.....
Why would you do that unless they're joke pledges?

I can understand people putting up $100 - $150 which is about the cost of a collector's edition game and you get the game and various trinkets.  No real risk.

But 4/5" printed statues of your character - wt?  Seriously what would you do with a 3D printed copy of an ingame toon?  That'll impress the girls.....

Someone has been creative with the tiers - I expected maybe 3 levels of funding, but they kept on going up to $10k.  Simply wow.

And frankly, for $5k - $10k, that's a financial investment (not entertainment spending) and I would expect a % of profits for that much doh sunk into a "potential" game.

DropBear wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 2:57am:


Honestly, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if those were "get the ball rolling" pledges by the creators. I wouldn't want people to think I am apposed to this, it actually makes a lot of sense from a business perspective.

DropBear wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 2:57am:

Why? Because some people have a ton of money.
None of the creators donated 10 grand.
It was Brian Fargo, the creator of another game company and I forget the third.

majmalphunktion wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 7:33am:


Oh, I understand that people have money.  I admire your Chutzpah in putting it there.  I don't fault you for putting it there as much as questioning the judgment of those who do pay it.

I live comfortably and can spend what I want on games, but that doesn't mean I would ever spend $10k (or even $1k) on just giving it to a game in development.
If I wanted to sink $10k or more into a game at this stage, I would become an investor and seek some financial reward for my risk.

I suppose if you're Bill Gates, then you wouldn't care about ROI, but don't know how many "Bill" types are out there and interested in computer games.

Gringo wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

I usually play these types of games in first person view, but I still view third person view as a necessity. If you have to navigate on varying surface geometry, or need to know your immediate surroundings while still focusing on something ahead, TP perspective is useful.
Climbing cliff faces in Skyrim would have been annoying. Pickpocketting would have been if they didn't have the indicator to tell you if someone had noticed you.

Just hit $200,000.

majmalphunktion wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 7:33am:


Right on, don't get butt hurt on me, doesn't look like you did, I was just spittballing. I do wish you the best of luck man, I would rather see a game made by, well fucking anyone, other than EA, WB, largecorporateconglomeratecocksuckingmotherfuckingshitstaindickbaggertons.

For some people...not ususally in gaming 10 grand is nothing.

As someone who spent time in TV, the budgets even for big ticket games is a drop in the bucket to a network, and frankly for the people that run them. Most of your cable networks make over a billion a year...before advertising and content. Just off of cable and sat fees. How's that for a ground floor? Gaming even publishers don't have a safety net like that.
Anyway, 10 grand...it's nothing to some people.

DropBear wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 2:57am:



vaj's mom & dad felt guilty for not sending him to a better school.

Revaulting wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:



No shit.  everyone knows you're supposed to pay before sex.

Revaulting wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:


Sorry to come across all capitalist.    
The lens I was viewing it through is one where speculative hobby/entertainment expenditure does not go into the $10k zone.
Sure I know people who spend big money on their hobbies like a jet ski, motoX bike, even miniatures - but they have an asset so to speak - something to show for their money.

I understand that people do have big coin (ILiveYourDreams will be along soon to tell us about it), but I just find the connection between someone who has that much money that they don't care about throwing away $10k and computer gaming to be tenuous.  Most of the people I know who have that much wealth, spend it on more mainstream gambling vices and other (ahem) services.

My perspective is that even if you resurrected a franchise that I loved enormously as a kid, that I would be happy to put $100-$200 towards it, but not any more, and it has nothing to do with not being able to afford it. 
I guess we all have different value trade-offs on what we measure as utility.

Anyway back into my capitalist bunker to count my coins.
Scrooge McDuck signing off.