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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Feb 6^th, 2015 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	Just curious.. I seem to remember being able to use it on them quite nicely in the past. Having Cocoon and scribe were pretty sweet. Bummer


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #1 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	aww poor you... Tincans should never have been healable by Divines. They made a big mistake with Healer's Friend, as all the Sorcs//Wizzies saw it as an opportunity to drop repair spells.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #2 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	It's a valid question Flav. Not sure it warrants the disparaging comment? There are lots of things in this game that aren't WAI. Given they're not listed on the known issues list, and they remain in game for some time, you could be forgiven for assuming they are WAI. I'd like to know when they changed it too, as I haven't tried it in ages. Thanks for the heads up DD.

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Teh_Troll Ex Member	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #3 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 4:14pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 4:08pm: It's a valid question Flav. Not sure it warrants the disparaging comment? There are lots of things in this game that aren't WAI. Given they're not listed on the known issues list, and they remain in game for some time, you could be forgiven for assuming they are WAI. I'd like to know when they changed it too, as I haven't tried it in ages. Thanks for the heads up DD. Cordovan the cocksucker is fault i bet.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #4 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	Quote: Cordovan the cocksucker is fault i bet. Nope. Cordo wouldn't even know Cocoon exists - he only recently upgraded to CSW pots.

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FuckThisShit Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 787 Joined: Jun 18^th, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #5 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 5:08pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 4:17pm: Nope.� Cordo wouldn't even know Cocoon exists - he only recently upgraded to CSW pots. i laughed way too fuckin hard at this


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apparently bored Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 118 Joined: Mar 4^th, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #6 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 3:02pm: aww poor you... Tincans should never have been healable by Divines. They made a big mistake with Healer's Friend, as all the Sorcs//Wizzies saw it as an opportunity to drop repair spells. this is in a sardonic tone i assume? i have ran with stupid people but to drop sle fhealing to count on someone else? dafuq have not checked but id guess it only doesnt work on them if they took the fort feat that makes immune to CLW


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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #7 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 6:22pm	Print Post
	maybe either the fort feat for wf or LoB form, which also prevent positive healing


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #8 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Cocoon works as usual on WF. apparently bored wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 5:32pm: have not checked but id guess it only doesnt work on them if they took the fort feat that makes immune to CLW Read the whole feat before taking it? Quote: Improved Fortification Usage: Passive Prerequisite: Warforged, Base Attack Bonus of +6. Description Improves your warforged fortification, granting you immunity to sneak attacks and extra damage from critical hits. However, you lose the ability to be healed by spells from the healing subschool, such as Cure Light Wounds.

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ahti Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 284 Location: finland Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #9 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 3:02pm: aww poor you... Tincans should never have been healable by Divines. They made a big mistake with Healer's Friend, as all the Sorcs//Wizzies saw it as an opportunity to drop repair spells. healers firend is so� cap 20, with current heal amp u heal robots like boss, but i agrree robots shld be immune to divine heal
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #10 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 3:02pm: Tincans should never have been healable by Divines. They made a big mistake with Healer's Friend, as all the Sorcs//Wizzies saw it as an opportunity to drop repair spells. apparently bored wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 5:32pm: this is in a sardonic tone i assume? i have ran with stupid people but to drop sle fhealing to count on someone else? dafuq have not checked but id guess it only doesnt work on them if they took the fort feat that makes immune to CLW I interpreted Flav's words to suggest that non-WF arcanes stopped carrying repair spells because WF party members could be effectively healed by divines.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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apparently bored Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 118 Joined: Mar 4^th, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #11 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 6:26pm: Cocoon works as usual on WF. Read the whole feat before taking it? i know what it says just not sure if caccoon was conisdered CLW for caster level purpose


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #12 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 7:30pm	Print Post
	apparently bored wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 7:11pm: i know what it says� just not sure if caccoon was conisdered CLW for caster level purpose

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #13 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 11:21pm	Print Post
	apparently bored wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 5:32pm: this is in a sardonic tone i assume? i have ran with stupid people but to drop sle fhealing to count on someone else? dafuq have not checked but id guess it only doesnt work on them if they took the fort feat that makes immune to CLW What is it called when someone uses a word like "sardonic" in an attempt to sound smart and then forgoes all use of capitalization, grammar and punctuation?

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #14 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 1:50am	Print Post
	Who Cares wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 11:21pm: What is it called when someone uses a word like "sardonic" in an attempt to sound smart and then forgoes all use of capitalization, grammar and punctuation? Irony. This place is a gold mine for it.* *Exhibit A.

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #15 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 3:06am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 3:02pm: aww poor you... Tincans should never have been healable by Divines. They made a big mistake with Healer's Friend, as all the Sorcs//Wizzies saw it as an opportunity to drop repair spells. This shit is why no one will weep that your Frog ass is not being polled for commentary on things any longer.


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Mr Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 361 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2011	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #16 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 4:49am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 4:17pm: Nope.� Cordo wouldn't even know Cocoon exists - he only recently upgraded to CSW pots. LOL! This!


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #17 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 5:59am	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 6:55pm: I interpreted Flav's words to suggest that non-WF arcanes stopped carrying repair spells because WF party members could be effectively healed by divines. Seems you are the only one that parsed it correctly. I was talking of a very old time when Having a warforged ( non arcane ) meant that you had to have a spot in your party for a friendly arcan willing to Hjeal you, because Divines weren't going to waste their precious mana on you. ( a time without mana pot, and with healing spells that healed at best 1/4 of what they should on a warforged ) Nowadays since there's no difference in healing between tincans and fleshies the point is moot, and they could even remove the repair spells without much issue. But really having kept that separation would have added spice to the game and blade/warforged wouldn't be one of the most used race.

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Trollero Waterworks Kobold Offline Got IDD? Posts: 187 Joined: Feb 1^st, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #18 - Feb 7^th, 2015 at 6:08am	Print Post
	g&r;dr


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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #19 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 11:43am	Print Post
	Why wouldn't Divine be able to heal 'tincons'? You're saying the gods power is incapable.. or implying that BF/WF have no souls? >_< Flav wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 3:02pm: aww poor you... Tincans should never have been healable by Divines. They made a big mistake with Healer's Friend, as all the Sorcs//Wizzies saw it as an opportunity to drop repair spells.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #20 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 3:20pm	Print Post
	Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 11:43am: Why wouldn't Divine be able to heal 'tincons'? You're saying the gods power is incapable.. or implying that BF/WF have no souls? That's exactly what a frakkin' toaster would say.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #21 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 3:20pm: That's exactly what a frakkin' toaster would say. Good series. Grace Park rocks.

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #22 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	So my wife was really into that show. So we went back and watched the original, yeah didn't age so well.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #23 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 5:24pm	Print Post
	Who Cares wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 5:01pm: So we went back and watched the original, yeah didn't age so well. Lies!

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raybob DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 452 Joined: Sep 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: When did Cocoon change to not work on WF/BF? Reply #24 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 11:43am: Why wouldn't Divine be able to heal 'tincons'? You're saying the gods power is incapable.. or implying that BF/WF have no souls? >_< WF are metal and wood. There isn't anything there for a divine to heal. As long as the fleshies can't be healed by repair spells, WF shouldn't be repaired by heal spells.


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