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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Turbine deleting bags? Feb 9^th, 2015 at 3:57am	Print Post
	After selling a bunch of high level augments on the ASAH and AH my augment bag went missing. I thought I just had misplaced it somewhere after an epic TR but I didn�t find it anywhere. I emptied the TR cache, checked the buyback and looked into my mailbox. Didn�t mind it because I have a full augment bag on every toon. But after selling more augments two more bags went missing and now I am sure: When I post a bunch of identical augments� the bag with the stack is missing the next time I log on. Other bags, even other augments bags are not affected. Guess there is a method to identify (store?) items that had been duped and posted on the ASAH. And apparently they can track the rest of the stack too, at least in the inventory of the toon that posted the augments. Didn�t happen with other items (LDS/scales/ingots) and I have bags with 100 stacks of augments left, but those are for self-use or donating to guildies now I guess. 100 stacks of raid timers, SP potions, XP-pots and loot gems are still in my inventories, so I guess it�s not a someone logging in in person as I would see that in my guild history too, right? As it did not happen to my mule I used to sell augments now and then it may have something to do with the numbers of augments sold. (Made 2k shards on my main). And I AM on their watch list I guess, because I got an item exploit related ban some time ago. Yes, I am kind of careless, guess that�s because I don�t care for DDO much at all.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 4:47am	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 3:57am: After selling a bunch of high level augments on the ASAH and AH my augment bag went missing. I thought I just had misplaced it somewhere after an epic TR but I didn�t find it anywhere. I emptied the TR cache, checked the buyback and looked into my mailbox. Didn�t mind it because I have a full augment bag on every toon. But after selling more augments more augment bags went missing and now I am sure: When I post a bunch of identical augments� the bag with the stack is missing the next time I log on. Other bags, even other augments bags are not affected. Guess there is a method to identify (store?) items that had been duped and posted on the ASAH. And apparently they can track the rest of the stack too, at least in the inventory of the toon that posted the augments. Didn�t happen with other items (LDS/scales/ingots) and I have bags with 100 stacks of augments left, but those are for self-use or donating to guildies now I guess. 100 stacks of raid timers, SP potions, XP-pots and loot gems are still in my inventories, so I guess it�s not a someone logging in in person as I would see that in my guild history too, right? As it did not happen to my mule I used to sell augments now and then it may have something to do with the numbers of augments sold. (Made 2k shards on my main). And I AM on their watch list I guess, because I got an item exploit related ban some time ago. Yes, I am kind of careless, guess that�s because I don�t care for DDO much at all. My only comment is that it is very unlike Turdbine to be this surgical about punitive measures.� Normally, if they suspect you of ill deeds, they cleanse your inventory. Sev alluded to new measures being implemented server side. It could be possible that if you put them through a system like mail or ASAH, that they have a script that checks the provenance of goods. It strikes me as an automated response because otherwise they would have seen your other illicit goods in inventory. Interesting move if true, but you that it will come back to bite them in the ass when it starts adversely affecting the greater population.
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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:15am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 4:47am: My only comment is that it is very unlike Turdbine to be this surgical about punitive measures.� Normally, if they suspect you of ill deeds, they cleanse your inventory. Sev alluded to new measures being implemented server side. It could be possible that if you put them through a system like mail or ASAH, that they have a script that checks the provenance of goods. It strikes me as an automated response because otherwise they would have seen your other illicit goods in inventory. Interesting move if true, but you that it will come back to bite them in the ass when it starts adversely affecting the greater population. Or I have a special freind among the GMs on my server that is new to the game and works "by the book". If A+B then delete C, but nothing else because you don't have a clue what may be legit and what not? Someone/ something deleted a stack of gold coins some weeks back. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1420448745 If it is an automated response someone has to confirm it or else they will get maban again. And I believe they can't be THAT stupid. And I guess only people with recent bans/infractions for dupping have to worry, because they assured us more then one time that buying and reselling won't get punished. (On the other hand I remember a thread with somebody complaining exactly about that: A ban because of reselling.)
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:22am	Print Post
	Oh Noes! My stack of icy burst weapons! Gone.

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FuckThisShit Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 787 Joined: Jun 18^th, 2014	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #4 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:35am	Print Post
	tested on a dummy account, put a bunch of duped items in the asah and nothing happened


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #5 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:42am	Print Post
	FuckThisShit wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:35am: tested on a dummy account, put a bunch of duped items in the asah and nothing happened so far Didn't happen to me with 99% of the shanigans I am involved, but got me with stupid gold coins and now with augments. But I can't remember what time(zone) I posted the items and I can't say how long it took until the "response" took place as I only log on once or twice a week. And I only have problems with my main account, that got a couple of infractions, my 10+ mule accounts are all fine.
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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #6 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:33am	Print Post
	this actually sounds funny:) i dont mind duping itself, tho i mind dicks selling duped stuff, especially those smartasses selling meridians, hearts n draconics in pairs:)


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #7 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:44am	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:42am: And I only have problems with my memory. Good choice though. Always replace forgotten stuff with paranoia.

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Socks? Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 8 Joined: Sep 16^th, 2014	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #8 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:46am	Print Post
	OP doomed. On flagged account. Will get your alt account and main banned for trading between them. All items deleted. Quit now. Game is D-E-D. Ded!


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #9 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:00am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:44am: Good choice though. Always replace forgotten stuff with paranoia. Memory loss was my first thought. But I am very sure that I made a green, red, blue and yellow bags for all of my main toons when we could get those free for cards. Now 3 of them are lacking a yellow bag and they have still the shards I got from auctions in the mail.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #10 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:20am	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:00am: Memory loss was my first thought. But I am very sure that I made a green, red, blue and yellow bags for all of my main toons when we could get those free for cards. Now 3 of them are lacking a yellow bag and they have still the shards I got from auctions in the mail. Put in a ticket?

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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #11 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:45am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:20am: Put in a ticket? I didn't even ask for which of my many felonies I got my last ban and they didn't got anything I don't have multiple backups. So no, not I am not going to put in a ticket. But I admit it would be hilarious if it worked.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #12 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:51am	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:45am: But I admit it would be hilarious if it worked. No, it would be hilarious either way

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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #13 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:54am	Print Post
	Socks? wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:46am: OP doomed. On flagged account. Will get your alt account and main banned for trading between them. All items deleted. Quit now. Game is D-E-D. Ded! Doomed? Not so much, I am still having a great time with DDO, even much more since I don't give a fuck anymore about archiving anything in game. On a flagged account? Probably, but looks like I didn't do anything yet that would satisfy perm banning an active player. All items deleted? Yes, that was really what I expected more than once and yet didn't ever happen until today. When I logged on after my last ban I was totally fine with the challenge of some naked runs, but no, they didn't take my pixels away.
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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #14 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 4:47am: My only comment is that it is very unlike Turdbine to be this surgical about punitive measures.� Normally, if they suspect you of ill deeds, they cleanse your inventory. Sev alluded to new measures being implemented server side. It could be possible that if you put them through a system like mail or ASAH, that they have a script that checks the provenance of goods. It strikes me as an automated response because otherwise they would have seen your other illicit goods in inventory. Interesting move if true, but you that it will come back to bite them in the ass when it starts adversely affecting the greater population. Sev also said that cosmetic crown of fire was supposed to originally have flames, but it didn't until there was enough outrage on the forums. My guess, he is saying it because something like that might be in planning and just not implemented or he is just trying to bluff and not rolling high enough. If something like that was true, it would be all over these forums and other forums already, not just 1 person.


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Brac Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 128 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2013	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #15 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	That certainly is strange. It also seems too advanced for Turbine. But who knows I guess.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9046 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #16 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	Is it possibly just an error deleting them? Like it's not anyone's doing, just some bug in the code? I know I ran into entertaining troubles while duping masses of vendor trash to sell for plat(having to split stacks, etc).

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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #17 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:22pm	Print Post
	heh, OP, have u checked first couple inventory slots, if your bag is not hiding under some of those?


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #18 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	Gringo wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:22pm: heh, OP, have u checked first couple inventory slots, if your bag is not hiding under some of those? Double checked, on all three toons that are missing one. Hadn't posted here if I weren't sure about them missing.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #19 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	mudfud wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:00pm: Sev also said that cosmetic crown of fire was supposed to originally have flames, but it didn't until there was enough outrage on the forums. My guess, he is saying it because something like that might be in planning and just not implemented or he is just trying to bluff and not rolling high enough. If something like that was true, it would be all over these forums and other forums already, not just 1 person. I know, my BS detector goes off when Sev speaks too. But, they have been addressing exploits far more effectively than they have in the past, and it is possible that they hire a competent programmer one day. Unlikely, but you never know. And yes stuff will likely surface here first, but you never known when that is going to happen and the first encounters with anti-exploit measures might just appear as anomalies like this until a pattern emerges. As RV said, until then we have paranoia to fill in the gaps.

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	string table error, tableDID wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:54am: Domed? Not so much You're more concave, anyway.

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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #21 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:36pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:33pm: As RV said, until then we have paranoia to fill in the gaps.� � You know the saying: Just because you're paranoid does not mean they are not after you. May be even true in my case here.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #22 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:33pm: But, they have been addressing exploits far more effectively than they have in the past, and it is possible that they hire a competent programmer one day.� Unlikely, but you never know. They need a competent programmer, a manager who lets the programmer do competent things, and to be able to show the big bosses how it fills their pockets. string table error, tableDID wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:36pm: You know the saying: Just because you're paranoid does not mean they are not after you. That saying is a conspiracy. The mindworms hunt by paranoia. So actually, every time you are paranoid, they are out to get you.

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SwashbucklerHater Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 337 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Turbine deleting bags? Reply #23 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 7:18pm: That saying is a conspiracy. The mindworms hunt by paranoia. So actually, every time you are paranoid, they are out to get you. I always knew they would be after me.


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	So I googled mindworm and came across this post. mindworm: When a man sticks his phallic organ into another person's ear and proceeds to ejaculate into it while lightly pumping. "I felt so hot last night when fred mindwormed me!" I am never going to be able to look at Fred the same way again, so you guys shouldn't be allowed to either.

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