The +20 HoW is amazing.  I have not bought one, still have several from the Enhancement Pass.  You can create builds that should not be do'able.

Who Cares wrote on Mar 5^th, 2015 at 10:49pm:


Wow. Sensitive.   

Why is 20 posts the magic number?

Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Mar 6^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:


That got me wondering, we all know the optimal split thanks to 3foot now, and rubbi, so why in the name of everything that is fucking holy would you want a bf barb,
It just makes 0 sense.
It is just so suboptimal and useless, why would you want a nonraging barb that needs to spend fucking bazilion points in  bf tree to get fucking recon?
Bard is ok i guess, but i fucking hate bards, hated since 2008 and that fucking thing wont change.
Fuck bards and fuck people who play bards and fuck turbine who made bards op.

(well i should fuck myself as well since i was  telling for years on mforums how useless they are)

Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Mar 6^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:


I see Lelouch assumes you mean BF Bard or BF Barb.  I assumed you meant BF Bard/Barb multi.
It might be a stupid question, but how does the +20 heart help with that?

Looks like to me that Blitzing 1.5k hp and 150 prr barbie gets constant stream of 70 - 250 green numbers just be hitting shit.

Lelouch wrote on Mar 7^th, 2015 at 3:43am:

Try this on for size.  At level 28 my Blade Forged Pure Barbarian can have 2200 hp, 150 PRR and can self heal while soloing any EE quest.  You only need to spend 11 AP to max out Communion.  He can also reach +6 crit profile with ease.   When I combine FotW Adrenaline Overload and Slaughter and/or Seeker's Strike he can average 10-15k "one shots".  I have seen as high as 28k crits while raged.  As far as Rage vs Communion, it goes like this.  Fight till he is at about 50% health, around 1100 hp.  Drop Rage, Communion (770 hp with 138 Ruby and 15 Diamond), Rage again.  With 8-10 Rages per rest this is never a problem as he has never run out between shrines.  The investment was not too steep.  A +1 HoW (traded Mystic Necklace for this), an alignment change token (about 650 TP) and the free +20 HoW.      

Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Mar 7^th, 2015 at 7:59am:

But.. Why?
When you can just slot amp gear, roll a pdk or human and autoattack while selfhealing on every hit never even giving a single fuck about blue bar beside when you really need that consecration in some ee raids.
I just dont understand why you would want to go out of rage, click on recon, slot repair in your weapon..
That is just ... to much work for current barbs.
With recon maxing you will either lose power of forge and dual boost, or ravager heals and crit profile + cap combo.
IT is just a suboptimal, look i have bunch of hp barb imo.
Easier to roll a dorf and heal with bond shit

Jelly_Muffin wrote on Mar 7^th, 2015 at 12:09pm:

Because rage, dismiss rage, recon, rage takes so much more skill and work.

And Im not forcing him to play other way.

Ya'll are missing the genius of the build.  I will contrast Blade Forged Barbarian to Blade Forged Centered Kensi for you.

With CKensi the build was extremely specific in what you were required to take to make the build work.  41 AP into Kensi for One With The Blade (and Power Surge).  Divine Might and Bane of Undeath forever tied together.  Monk Stance and Dance of Flowers, also slaved together.  Feats that required exact leveling with no room for errors.  Basically Enhancement A + Epic Destiny (and Twists) B + Feat list C is the only way to get result D.  Now some to these restrictions were eased when Paladin got upgraded so 4 levels worked also.

Blade forged Barbarian.  Communion of Scribing is THE ONLY SELF HEALING YOU WILL EVER NEED and only requires 11 AP (12 if you max out Repair Systems/Mechanist).  Ravager healing is fools gold.  Do not bother with this.  Fast Healing and any other sort of self healing including Coccoon, Crusade and Pots (silver flame, Sov heal pots) are not needed.

Flex appeal.  If you want to make a tank then you would combine Unyielding Sentinel and Occult Slayer.  You could have 2200 hp, 150 PRR, 100+ MRR, SR equal to your CON score (I ran around at 68 most times), a 30% chance to knock down casters every time you are damaged by one without even going near them (Arcane Encumbrance).  Ear Smash is frosting but works well.

If you want to go completely DPS crazy then you could combo Adrenaline Overload with Seeker's Strike and/or Slaughter for huge crits.

Crit profile.
Critical Rage: Increases your critical threat range by 1/2 when raging.  1 for Tier 1, 2 for Tier 2.  NOT 1/2 as it reads.

Devastating Critical: Passive Bonus: +1 Critical Damage Multiplier on rolls of 19-20.

Overwhelming Critical:When rolling a 19 or 20 on an attack with any weapons used by the character, your critical damage multiplier is increased by +1.

With a Thunderforged Great axe I was at walking around (raged) at +7. on role of 19-20.

Want to specialize in AOE?  No problem.  Cleave, Great Cleave, Supreme Cleave, Momenume Swing and Lay Waste.  With this setup I would never fail to keep a Blitz going.  Your hits per second are boosted exponentially by the number of mobs you can gather.

I also used some Quest specific setups such as Stand Against the Tide for Bone Boys, Mind Over Magic for MoD etc.

Basic feat setup
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
IC:Slashing
2HF
I2HF
G2HF
Overwhelming Critical
Adamantine Body
P2HF
P2WF
Stunning Blow

So which feats am I missing because I took Blade forged instead of Human?  The one I miss the most is Dragon Mark for free DD.

Viktor Vaughn wrote on Mar 7^th, 2015 at 9:18am:

Neither of us know what you are talking about.

5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 10^th, 2015 at 7:03am:

You are completely bat shit crazy.  No offense.

Your build as posted is just as focused as Centered Kensi.  YOU do not have the ability to flex from your build and maintain the level of damage you have found.  Please tell me how you managed to get your twist points while staying at Camp Crusader?  Please tell me how you self heal without it?

Blood Strength, I Like Pain, are not enough. 

You also gimped your build by not taking Cleave which is required to use Momentum Swing and Lay Waste.  Oh wait, forget that, you cannot use Legendary Dreadnought.

Your Crit Profile will be 1 higher because your base is +4 with heavy picks.  What other heavy picks do you use for leveling?  None, because Death Nip sucks.  I use Epic Antique Greataxe at level 20, Cleaver, Hewer of Suffering at 23 and a Tier 2 TF at level 26 and Tier 3 at 28.

Your single target DPS will be higher due to hits per min however I will clear rooms faster with Cleave, Great Cleave, Supreme Cleave, Momentum Swing and Lay Waste.  Yes, I run in Dreadnought often so I can build up 6 million Destiny Exp for Martial ETR's.

I recommend putting your theory build back into the dojo and leave it on Lamania.  No offense.