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Active Past Life Feats
Mar 11th, 2015 at 6:47pm
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So the granted(free) past-life feats are all well and good, but I'm curious if anyone uses or thinks much of the granted(active) ones.

Several of them LOOK tantalizing, but cost a feat...

Thoughts?
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Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 6:54pm
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past life sorc is pretty much an extra mental toughness, and past life wis is extra DC's and even the mm part of it can be used by shiradi

never really used any others though.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:03pm
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So the purchased caster PLs, much like the granted, really just make you a better caster.

I guess most PLs are ultimately like that. Still, though, most of the melee PLs make you a better melee.

I may still do a few arcane lives anyway, when I eventually finish up my melees. The options for arcane-melee-caster are getting more inviting with each passing day.
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:10pm
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I really, really like flameblades.
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:16pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:10pm:
I really, really like flameblades.


...that would actually be CRAZY AWESOME when doing a ranger life next. Pity it took me to the end of my third ranger life to figure out that dual-wielding is the only way to travel Tongue

Hey, do the bought ones stack? In other words, if one purchase of Harbinger of Nature's Wrath gives you 3 flame blades/rest, does two give you 6 and three 9?
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:31pm
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i use the fighter one all the time for the full BaB
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:53pm
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Only past life i like is wizy, maximized empowered free 10 magic missile and 1 DC is pretty good.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 9:09pm
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Whippet Goode really enjoys his Arti PL feat. It excels in all the same situations that a Risian Festival eternal wand excels in.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 4:58am
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noamineo wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:16pm:
Hey, do the bought ones stack? In other words, if one purchase of Harbinger of Nature's Wrath gives you 3 flame blades/rest, does two give you 6 and three 9?


Each of the pastlive feats can only be bought once.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:16am
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toaf wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
i use the fighter one all the time for the full BaB


Does the active figther  pastlive feat give you permanent BAB = Level or just 3 times for one minute (like I understand the wiki)
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:32am
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toaf wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
i use the fighter one all the time for the full BaB


Why would you need a higher bab? even a dump stat caster can duel-wield and hit all the time. Are you referring to back in 2010-11 when the game wasn't ruined?
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 11:19am
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string table error, tableDID wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:16am:
Does the active figther  pastlive feat give you permanent BAB = Level or just 3 times for one minute (like I understand the wiki)


It's a one minute clicky, iirc.

mystafyi wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:32am:
Why would you need a higher bab?


More PRR.
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Reply #12 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 12:52pm
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Lehane wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 6:54pm:
past life sorc is pretty much an extra mental toughness, and past life wis is extra DC's and even the mm part of it can be used by shiradi

never really used any others though.


I go with completionist and Wiz quite often. Sorc is garbage imho. I prefer to go with Mental Toughness and have +1% crit than 10 shitty rays.
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Reply #13 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:59pm
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Oh, sure, everyone should take completionist  Roll Eyes lol
  

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Reply #14 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 2:05pm
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mystafyi wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:32am:
Why would you need a higher bab? even a dump stat caster can duel-wield and hit all the time. Are you referring to back in 2010-11 when the game wasn't ruined?

People keep repeating this for some reason, it's just not true.
You can have lot of problems, lot of grazing hits or not getting enough Blitz stacks with shitty to hit.
It's okay in heroics, starts to suck at level EE.
  
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Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 6:24pm
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Starkjade wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 11:19am:
It's a one minute clicky, iirc.


More PRR.


how much of a diff in PRR you think?  it would have to be a lot to justify 3 1min clickies to me.
  

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Reply #16 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 6:50pm
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Yobai wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 6:24pm:
how much of a diff in PRR you think?


10, tops, but that's not much of increase, since that's with heavy armour and proficiency on something like a 19/1 wiz/ftr or a pure wiz with maxed out EK.

Definitely not worth a feat slot just for that, except maybe on a flavour build.
  

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Reply #17 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 2:24am
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mystafyi wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:32am:
Why would you need a higher bab?

The Wiki can answer your question. Though maybe someone can add the PRR thing?

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For melee weapons, attack speed increases at BAB 1, 3, 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25.
For bows and thrown, attack speed increases with each point of BAB, and it grows much faster than for melee.
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 14th, 2015 at 3:14pm
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The only ones I find useful are wizard(for any DC caster) and completionist(about 95% of builds).  The rest are not worth a feat slot.
  
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Reply #19 - Mar 14th, 2015 at 3:34pm
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PL Bard is not bad for an enchanter cc-focused bard. although enchanter CC-focused bards are not very useful overall
  
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Reply #20 - Mar 18th, 2015 at 2:53pm
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The Bard Active Feat is Inspire Courage 3 times per rest... I actually kind of like that just because I think non-bards getting to sing bard songs are funny.

Probably not worth a feat, rolling that one into the granted feat would make a bard-life worth it.

I may be doing a bard life anyway just for giggles and because Completionist is looking mighty tempting....
  

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