Personally, I'd move that forward to Druid's Deep with Gianthold and King's Road beginning to show off the accelerated powercreep that ended up killing the game.

With content release at the rate they go, you'd think they'd consider the obsolescence of content to be a Bad Idea. Oh well.

Another huge problem with TF gear is that it invalidated every possible non-TF caster stick ML24 and above. Which means almost no treasure chest is even worth opening, for a caster, including some end chests.

People don't seem to be taking account with TOEE is that WOTC is pressuring them to match a release date w- Neverwinter + WOTC's own release of revised TOEE content..  so.. making anything 30+ before level cap has actually been released.....

ah fuck it, blame Turbine. lol.


But also.. I mean.. what would you guys do in stead of crappy loot designers..

Revaulting wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2015 at 3:22am:


That's a very good example.
I like opening chests on my Sorc to see how many suits of Planeforged half plate and docents I can collect in a session....   

TL : DR - Turdbine need a longer term loot/game plan to help avoid all these loot mistakes.

IMHO, there are several problems that are evident.
There is no strategy or plan for loot (or the game).
Even with changing devs, a strategy would help to keep the holistic themes consistent.  You could plan what sort of items you will have and their place in the broader system.  With this approach you could pre-select what each release/area is going to have as a niche that will draw interest.

What we have is a loose collection of unrelated crap that syncs together poorly.
With a strategic framework, you have the core logic sorted and can focus more on balancing.
Next problem - devs don't know enough about the game to understand what is actually good.  There is no point in making named loot that no-one wants. It is simply a waste of resources.
So the balance is that not everything can be uber, so some things need to be more niche.  There are plenty of niche opportunities in DDO - so many races/classes and then the builds.
Be familiar with the builds and put one or two useful items in the right slots.
To me the beauty of PnP DnD is having to make choices.  Having multiple options and trade-offs.  I can have that, but it means I can't have that.  In DDO, between items, enhancements and ED's you can be virtually invulnerable.  We've reached the point in the mungbean campaign where the GM can no longer challenge the player group (or more accurately the gap between the vets and newbs is so great that balancing content is very difficult).  DDO needs to restore that difficult decision around what to equip by having choices, but nothing that is perfect.

Next problem - level ranges.  Understand the relevant useful ranges of named loot.  Use the player resources and PC to understand this.  Get a community database like DDO wiki to do it for you and keep it maintained - players are dedicated enough to do this.
If they understand this, they don't create a ridiculous grind item that are only useful for 1-2 levels (eg. CITW weaps).

Revise older Epic content.  CITW is dead, acknowledge it and do something about it so it is not wasted.  Go back and change something about it, so all that content is no longer irrelevant.
Drop the level range so it is valid 23-26?  New versions of the weaps?  Make the insightful +3 stat trinkets bindable to other weapons, so they stay useful?  I don't have the answer, but at least look for ideas.

I look at the recent Epic stuff like e3BC and the eMadness content and it looks haphazard.  Most of the stuff has no real place.  E3BC was supposed to support the release of Swashbucklers - do Swashy builds use that gear or is it just flavour gear?  I find the boots useful in Double Dragon raid, but that's about it

HH and eNecro have some themes and useful items that players do chase down, but how do they stop HH becoming dead content too?

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:33pm:



yeah yeah the GS clickies are convenient but I meant equipped items.  you have GS items or weapons equipped at 28?

Oh and Cannith Crafted +1 Ghost touch Greater Incorporeal Bane weapons with Masterful Craftsmanship are ml 6 and useful for many levels and 82 Arcane is highest you need.

Remember where we are.. this is the place for people to bitch, down-play, and generally nay-say anything & everything.. I would say 90% of the people who post have builds that are utterly equipment dependent for even the slightest hint of survivability. As far as they are concerned, if its not ML28, it's not worth wearing. I've kind of got a soft spot in my heart for Concordant with SP.

Rubbinns wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 8:42am:

Triple Neg Cloak on every toon that has the stuff to make one (re: shards) Still useful as a swap in at Lvl 28.

Con-Op +45 HP Necklace w/ Exceptional (Insight now I guess) CON and STR skills (for Jump and Concentration.) Because more HP is MOAR.

AS to the OP… More bastard sword options are always welcome, even if they're shite.

I will be crafting/grinding precisely nothing from this quest/ pack.

However, if that Horseshoe Crab shield looks anything like I hope… There's a Mirror of Glamering with it's name written all over it. 

Metal-Beast wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:



what do you put on the cloak?  HP & SP?  or?

Yobai wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:


Nothing… iirc.

It's all the resists: Deathblock, Blindness Immunity, Fear Immunity (being Feared sucks it in Vol)

+6 Resists to Disease and Poison (not a big thing, but whatever.)

Symbol of Weakness clickie and Slay-Living Guard as throw-ins.

Edit: Had to go review the planner to see all the stuff 

Doggydaddy wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:


I believe we're all agreed that in EE, Blindness or Fear are truly Gayness in the Anus®.

Yobai wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:21pm:


The Guard ain't worth a cunt-suck in Heroics either. LOL

Guards in general blow dead bears for quarters and give change. Anything that requires you to get hit to proc is just ridiculous.

But again, it's a throw in effect. If something procs off it and dies, great. If not, that's just one more thing I'll spend a few seconds beating on before continuing.

But at least for me, consolidating all those effects on ONE slot that's usually dead is golden. Especially if I don't have slotted gear spread around to compensate for it.

YMMV of course.

BTW: Does anyone have eyes on that ToEE gear yet? That Horseshoe Crab shield is calling my name in a sweet Siren Song...