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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	Following post from Assassin thread, Quote: We are behind on this thread and will be catching up in the next two days. Feedback won't be incorporated into the next Lamannia build but we plan to go through the thread and discuss internally before live. Sev~ Following post from the Acrobat thread: Quote: We will be catching up on this thread in the next couple of days. Player feedback won't be incorporated into the next Lamannia build but we will be going through it and discussing it before the update goes live. Sev~ That's same quote both threads, says it all huh? Honestly, I'm kinda surprised he didn't just close the threads while he was at it. And that statement? that is pure misunderstood-nerd ego, In other words: We will have a couple of coffee breaks bemoaning how silly players just don't understand how clever we Devs are, and then we are going to live with what we planned all along.
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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Hag Master wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:14pm: Following post from Assassin thread, Quote: We are behind on this thread and will be catching up in the next two days. Feedback won't be incorporated into the next Lamannia build but we plan to go through the thread and discuss internally before live. Sev~ Following post from the Acrobat thread: Quote: We will be catching up on this thread in the next couple of days. Player feedback won't be incorporated into the next Lamannia build but we will be going through it and discussing it before the update goes live. Sev~ That's same quote both threads, kinda says it all huh? In other words: We will have a couple of coffee breaks bemoaning how silly players just don't understand how clever we Devs are, and then we are going to live with what we planned all along. same ol' same ol'

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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #2 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 1:54am	Print Post



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DDOcrackhead Stormreaver Piker Offline Worlds: Khyber, Wayfinder Posts: 523 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #3 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:49am	Print Post
	I don't see where your problem is. I am surprised they are even reading threads carefully and even apologize for not being able to read thru all of it in time. This is a hint that they might take this feedback actually serious.

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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #4 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:56am	Print Post
	My problem is that they are not taking the feedback, and the posts make that pretty clear. Sev: yeah yeah we uh... will read this stuff and talk about it... among ourselves... and then go live. Wake the fuck up, go read his threads with barbs and see what went live, see what he posted at first for rogues and see what went live in lamma, nothing changes, it goes as Sev initially planned with small numerical changes, nothing else..... seriously grow the fuck up. I mean really, WTF man, it's not going to be previewed in lamma next pass it's just going to go live, meaning: fuck you we will go live and you wont have any real fucking say.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9972 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #5 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:10am	Print Post
	DDOcrackhead wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:49am: I don't see where your problem is. I am surprised they are even reading threads carefully and even apologize for not being able to read thru all of it in time. This is a hint that they might take communication actually seriously. fify. Sev will just roll out what he has planned. He might tweak a few numbers, but nothing will change based on the feedback... Now on the other hand compared to previous producers, this one has the communication bit down pat.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #6 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:17am	Print Post
	DDOcrackhead wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:49am: I don't see where your problem is. I am surprised they are even reading threads carefully and even apologize for not being able to read thru all of it in time. This is a hint that they might take this feedback actually serious. No, this is just a way of shutting up the forumites. Like past devs and producers, they will ignore the advice, push it Live and sort out the mess later, maybe, sort of. They had no intention of adopting any advice from any of those idiotic players (ie. customers). Tell people what they want to hear, not what they need to know. It'll make your life easier during your tenure. Next guys comes along, takes credit for the good stuff, dismisses all the previous guys promises and starts with a clean slate. Politics 101.

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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #7 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:04am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:10am: fify. Sev will just roll out what he has planned. He might tweak a few numbers, but nothing will change based on the feedback... Now on the other hand compared to previous producers, this one has the communication bit down pat. He does indeed, doesn't he? this gave me a good chuckle Flav, thanks.


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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #8 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 9:00am	Print Post
	Hag Master wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:14pm: *Feedback won't be incorporated into the next Lamannia build but we plan to go through the thread and discuss internally before live.* At least this guy's more honest than most of them. But he should have changed "into the next Lamannia build" to ", ever, " for accuracy's sake.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #9 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 9:37am	Print Post
	Sev is awesome. " I am hearing your feedback but I wont listen to it" "we have no fucking idea why assassins arent the best assassins, but look at those shiny bards!!!" "But IT HAZ 14d6 sneak attack!!!!11one1!!eleven11!!"

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #10 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 10:10am	Print Post
	I just don't get the assassinate reluctance on the part of the devs (dead horse I know). It would not be game breaking for a squishy class with stealth issues to have a strong assassinate ability. meh.


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DDONoob Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 247 Joined: May 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #11 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 11:18am	Print Post
	DDOcrackhead wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:49am: I don't see where your problem is. I am surprised they are even reading threads carefully and even apologize for not being able to read thru all of it in time. This is a hint that they might take this feedback actually serious. This. OP has shit for brains, sadly the norm on the vault now.


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Cow humper Ex Member	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #12 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 11:38am	Print Post
	DDONoob wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 11:18am: This. OP has shit for brains, sadly the norm on the vault now. Lol. If you believe anything he is saying, you are the one with shit for brain here. The manipulation rules the world. This one however, is completely see through. The DDO community proves their stupidity more and more by eating it.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9972 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #13 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	Hag Master wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:04am: He does indeed, doesn't he? this gave me a good chuckle Flav, thanks. I've seen it enough... Typical example : Barb revamp ? we wanted some survivability ( self healing, improvement to potion drinking, ... ) and more importantly uber DPS to rule them all. Sev wanted an alibi to revamp Healing Amplification... He just put it everywhere in the barb trees and spread a bit of changes all over the place to make believe that he actually was trying to do what we wanted. Then he moved to the next topic... In the end we have barbs with lots of healing amp, a few self heal stuff spread all over the place, and not uber DPS to rule them all.

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DDONoob Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 247 Joined: May 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #14 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Quote: Lol. If you believe anything he is saying, you are the one with shit for brain here. The manipulation rules the world. This one however, is completely see through. The DDO community proves their stupidity more and more by eating it. What he is saying is that they are going to discuss the feedback. Nothing more. I believe they are going to discuss it. I do appreciate that he evens posts though, I remember the twat that was in charge when I went on my 2 year break just after MotU launched. Severlin seems to make a genuine effort to communicate with the players.


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Factor Ex Member	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #15 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 10:10am: I just don't get the assassinate reluctance on the part of the devs (dead horse I know).� It would not be game breaking for a squishy class with stealth issues to have a strong assassinate ability.� meh. Is it because they didn't come up with it?


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Factor Ex Member	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #16 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	DDONoob wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:12pm: What he is saying is that they are going to discuss the feedback. Nothing more. I believe they are going to discuss it. I do appreciate that he evens posts though, I remember the twat that was in charge when I went on my 2 year break just after MotU launched. Severlin seems to make a genuine effort to communicate with the players. So nice to see someone is taking up the role of blind optimist! I was getting tired of it.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4341 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #17 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:59pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 4:10am: Sev will just roll out what he had planned on his own, before going to the players council. He might tweak a few numbers, but nothing will change based on the feedback... Now on the other hand compared to previous producers, this one has the communication bit down pat. ftfy.

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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #18 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 1:19pm: I've seen it enough... Typical example : Barb revamp ? we wanted some survivability ( self healing, improvement to potion drinking, ... ) and more importantly uber DPS to rule them all. Sev wanted an alibi to revamp Healing Amplification... He just put it everywhere in the barb trees and spread a bit of changes all over the place to make believe that he actually was trying to do what we wanted. Then he moved to the next topic... In the end we have barbs with lots of healing amp, a few self heal stuff spread all over the place, and not uber DPS to rule them all. Did you play new barbs at all? Just wondering because what im playing right now is uber dps and a beast selfhealer.. Pure barbie girl as well


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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #19 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:48pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 9:37am: Sev is awesome. " I am hearing your feedback but I wont listen to it" "we have no fucking idea why assassins arent the best assassins, but look at those shiny bards!!!" "But IT HAZ 14d6 sneak attack!!!!11one1!!eleven11!!" This.


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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #20 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	It appears that reality is setting in for the forumites: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/456558-Rogue-Assassin-Changes?p=557250...


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #21 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	Quote: So nice to see someone is taking up the role of blind optimist! I was getting tired of it.� This. Dragovan - the dark side is weak in you now, but I sense much potential. A few more months of Sev and you'll see how consultative he really is. He's a paid knob polisher. In the porn industry, they're called fluffers. In Turdbine, they're called dedicated employees and Producers.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #22 - Mar 26^th, 2015 at 11:04pm	Print Post
	DDONoob wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 2:12pm: What he is saying is that they are going to discuss the feedback. Nothing more. I believe they are going to discuss it. Am I just that much more pessimistic than any of you, or am I actually reading this as intended? Which would make Dragovan the least fluffy bunny of us all. Everyone else seems to have a somehow positive vision of what happens when Turbine discusses things.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9972 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #23 - Mar 27^th, 2015 at 4:11am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:15pm: Did you play new barbs at all? Just wondering because what im playing right now is uber dps and a beast selfhealer.. Pure barbie girl as well yup, yup, but we wanted moar DPS...

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9972 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Assassins and Acrobats.......Classic Sev Reply #24 - Mar 27^th, 2015 at 4:13am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 6:14pm: Dragavon - the dark side is weak in you now, but I sense much potential. I'll work on Draga's dark side.

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