Enerjay wrote on Apr 9
th, 2015 at 11:40am:
I personally enjoy this type of dungeon. A lot of the quests you could basically auto-pilot through in the game and does not have a lot of repeat value. I look at this quest and the Haunted Halls as sort of an improved wilderness area.
There are definitely some "slayer" kills in ToEE and tons of random chests to find if you just want to crawl the dungeon for awhile.
In addition I like that the heroic version is level 7. There really isn't a quest like this for lower level toons. Sometimes I grind my toons out as fast as possible and sometimes I like to leave toons at lower levels just for a change in pace and this is a nice addition.
On the topic of the loot - I absolutely hate it when each release at more and more "top-level" loot. I do not understand why everyone thinks that each update should out do the last one. If it did I would not waste my time grinding as much.
I am not even sure I want to grind out the tomes either as they will probably put a supreme tome in the DDO store at some point. I do not need to be the first person to have tomes to enjoy my toon.
I'm glad you like it and getting some enjoyment from it, but unfortunately for Turdbine, you're not in the majority it would seem.
On your loot comment, most comments I've read have no expectations that the loot supercedes anything. It is possible to make attractive loot without invalidating other systems. It can be unique abilities or positioned at a level to make it attractive (ie. better than lower level quest loot or rangen).
I personally think the epic loot has been positioned incorrectly at lvl 26. It should be lower, say ML21-25 to be competitive and useful. Even this has a problem. To be running lvl 30 content, you're likely to be lvl 28. So you're grinding for gear below your level and lesser than TF. The only valid niche that I have read for this gear is people who refuse to do raids. Otherwise, if you're at cap and grinding, you may as well grind for TF gear.
As others have suggested, if Turdbine had wanted ML26 loot, they should have looked at epicifying the Earthshatter war hammer. Something situationally useful and not uber. Being TOEE, the was an opportunity to produce several weapons like this that do not eclipse TF or the impending Vale eGS.
The caster sticks and armor are a joke.
This is a level 30 quest (ie. End game content), and most of the loot is close to being eclipsed by lower level quest loot or rangen stuff.
I haven't looked at the Heroic stuff yet, so can't really comment.
Except to say that getting ML7 drops in epic chests is sloppy work.