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Omg.  Where do they find these people?

Excerpt from next patch notes:
Our data shows that the XP from the 3BC quests was overperforming, so they have been adjusted to make them less compelling and less enjoyable to run.  They now match the rest of the content.

and its not actually epic xp value for the quest. just similar value what stones run red had all the time. so it can be wai as well, just to make the pack more "buyable"

Mr wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 4:56am:


I wouldn't wish that on Jerry.
I know, I'm going soft, but c'mon that dude is a serious window licker.

Goddamn, FranOhmsford is just an OCD crappy player.

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He skips Lair of Summoning because it is too hard?!?!?  That's a 3 minute quest.

And I can't imagine the drudgery of maxing out all those lower level explorer areas.

his could have something to do with me capping every slayer too {Korthos, Cerulea, Waterworks, Tangleroot and 3BC!}.

FranOhmsTard has been known to frequent this forum.

So so very very retarded. There are no words.

Meh - I never maxed out any slayer area ever, or even came close, but if that's how someone likes to play, then whatever.  Far be it from me to tell someone how to have fun.

Yobai wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 2:27pm:


OCD? You're most likely right.

But crappy? Maybe compared to you I am but we can't all be top of the tree now can we!

FranOhmsford wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:


That's how it begins.

Finally, Welcome to the Vault.

FranOhmsford wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:


Welcome. Now that your'e here, I just have one question: Are you, by chance, Sailor Moon?

I ask because of your penchant for endless anime apostrophes.

5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 1:23am:

u know u have to be lvl 8+ to figure it out?

fire caves is still untouched, so relax op.

5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 1:23am:



No Shit Sherlock!

It's not easy to explain when people only see the worst possible reason and won't accept any other to be valid you know.
But I'll give it one more try anyway:

I know perfectly well HOW to kill said Fire Ele - I've run said quest at least once on over 50 Characters! {And a good half of those have been E-BB runs!}.

But when I'm on a 1st Life Lvl 7 Fire Sorc or 1st Life Lvl 5 Rogue/2 Fighter wielding a Quarterstaff that's probably close to broken already and said Fire Ele has dr/- well I'm not going to bother wasting time at the AH trying to find a Decent Beater OR skip taking Firewall in favour of Acid Rain OR take 30 mins looking for a group for said ONE SINGLE Quest!

No - I'm just gonna skip it as it's worth maybe 4k xp even with BB and Favour run it later!


The reasons why I say it's not a Lvl 5 quest are:
1) It's at least equal in Challenge factor to Forgotten Caverns or Haunted Halls {Both of which are Base Lvl 6!} and along with Chamber of Insanity should be pushed up to Lvl 6  so as to streamline getting groups while levelling for newbies.
and
2) It's a relic of the P2P original DDO that's heavily aimed at a Full Group {Soloing is most certainly possible even for the likes of me EVEN AT BB LVL! But it's still a group oriented quest!}.


There are so many Lvl 5 quests that even on a 3rd Life + Character skipping Carnival completely there's a good chance I'll be Hard Capped 8 Before finishing them!
So it's a choice of which one to leave for last - Lair of Summoning/Chamber of Insanity and Mystery of Delera's are 90% of the time going to be left for last by me {and skipped till later if I won't be able to get XP from them through being Hard Capped!}.

FranOhmsford wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:



Just for future reference bro, a little food for thought. I am not arguing with you, "not fun" is always the best reason I have ever had to not run a quest.