Not godaddy.com...

Probably some Dull servers rented from PNAP... at least it would be more probable.

Flav wrote on Apr 30^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:


No fucking way that will ever happen 

Flav wrote on Apr 30^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:



No shit? Well, guess it had to happen eventually.

AllBorkedup wrote on Apr 30^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:


lol that's funny, I just saw this on motherboard in somebody sig.

Since G'Land is down more often than it is up these days perhaps we should start assuming that it is down and only announce when it is up?

These Turdbine muppets really have no idea what they're doing!

I was reading that LOTRO devs thread and it paints a pretty awful picture.
They wouldn't buy their devs decent PC's - what chance do we have of a decent server?
It sounds like the mgmt there are more familiar with running Bangladeshi sweat shops, than first world software houses.

They don't deserve the bloody IP they have.

I can see where the problems stem from.  Internally they assume the average player does not stay more than 9 months.
Using averages like this, they will customise their systems and content to maximise cash grab potential in that timeframe.
Things like overall balance become redundant because no-one is around long enough to notice.

Of course, this assumption is also self-fulfilling as it drives away players who are loyal and are inclined to stay for much longer.
Since it went FTP, I guess there is no point arguing that they should try to keep a loyal base before appealing to the transients.
You need to work out how to keep players before finding ways to attract them.

DropBear wrote on Apr 30^th, 2015 at 6:22pm:

Amen to that 

DropBear wrote on Apr 30^th, 2015 at 6:22pm:

Agreed, which is sad. When the game still only sucked somewhat I actively recruited friends to play (and guillable me also threw money at them so they could afford to make it better), now I'm embarrased to.  If they made quality a priority they'd both keep existing players and gain the new players that happy existing ones bring in. There is no better advertising than when a satisfied customer tells his friends.

And actually, it's shorter than 9 months. For the last period we had data, they were losing somehting like 20% per week, making median lifespan 1-2 months. You could tell by looking at the decay in logon numbers when they changed the default server. It may have briefly gotten better, but with the recent grotto bugs, lag, and massively mismanaged updates I'm sure it's at least as bad now.

mudfud wrote on May 1^st, 2015 at 3:29am:


I seriously doubt many people are going to pay $25 per toon to Tfr for Turdbine's incompetence.
How many people only have one toon and no guild?

What is happening is people are waiting or leaving.

I don't subscribe to the view that they did lose lots of money to duping.  Dupers by and large probably wouldn't have bought most of what they duped anyway (eg. Sovereign pots).

As MajMal alluded to, they were well aware of many bugs that generated cash so left them.
They only sweated the bugs that affected store sales.
If duping were such a burning issue, why leave it for 6 months?
Sev came in and fixed most exploits in one update.

wogoflove wrote on May 1^st, 2015 at 7:07pm:


Yes, but the Turdbine perspective is the average player only stays for 9 months, so who cares if people have stacks of 1000000 scales.
They will never be able to use them or sell them, and they will simply vanish into the ether when they leave the game.

Take the Otto's boxes.
Whenever someone figures out how to dupe them, Turdbine react quickly, because that does affect store sales adversely.
But stone re-use was left in place for ages, because it generated sales.  Not many people buy boxes at $50 a pop.
But when the population knows there is a chance of getting lots of uses out of them, then sales of boxes went up.  Some people get unlimited uses, and others get 1.  It's a lottery that Turdbine wins because it drives sales.
I averaged about 5 uses per stone, and at $10 per life I felt it was worth it, but not $50.  Each to their own.

Meursault wrote on May 2^nd, 2015 at 1:24am:


No shadow of a doubt that it was. Or a social experiment at the very least.. "How many lazy fuckers do we have in the game this month?"

Who Cares wrote on May 2^nd, 2015 at 1:46am:


It gives you xp. 3.2 million xp, if you do it right. Meaning you can skip from level 1 to level 18 on a 3rd heroic life or 20 to 25 (and/or 25 to 27) on an epic life. Skipping levels, thus paying not to play.