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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #25 - May 7^th, 2015 at 9:23am	Print Post
	I tell you what, I took a year and a half off and just got back into this game a month or so, just playing occasionally (may be 4-5 hours per week). I have been soloing everything I can, just visiting the old game quests; I am about to hit level 17 and now I am starting to look up and I notice, no one is around....I am on Thelanis. I pop into meridia...nothing, I tele over to amrath....not one person. I look up to see if there is another instance...nothing. I go check the social panel and then check for raids for my level.....Nothing. I myself have a HUGE curve to catch up on, but unless I am in a guild that is active, I have no clue what im gonna do when I get to EPICS. DDO seems lost now IMHO. All the changes originally is what led me to leave, but now it feels like there is no one really to play run with.


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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #26 - May 7^th, 2015 at 9:59am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:08am: And the constant system changes invalidate those guides too. There have been lots of changes to mob behaviour, toon development and combat systems to make it a moving feast. Pants Shitter wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 7:02am: The point being, is it takes me and a team of vets about 2 months to train a newb to competence and get them through their first life. That might be why you're not getting the help you need. It is a very fucking steep learning curve for a video game when a proper tutorial takes the equivalent of a semester of a college level course to figure out. palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:23am: DDO seems lost now IMHO. All the changes originally is what led me to leave, but now it feels like there is no one really to play run with. A new casual player can jump into the game, hunt and peck around Korthos for a few days on Normal or Casual, and make it to Harbor without much if any study or effort, but once they get to Harbor or Market and start running with more experienced players who have perfect foreknowledge of the quests as well as well considered gear on their characters, the new player becomes aware of the significant performance gap. If they take the time to study and learn how to close this gap, they are rewarded by Vargina and Severance using a bulldozer to implement new systems when a little finesse of the old environment would have been sufficient. It's frustrating as hell for many people who may not want to be the best players, but would like to get more than 10% of the kills in a two person group.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Lemming Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 15^th, 2014	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #27 - May 7^th, 2015 at 10:07am	Print Post
	Quote: I have never seen anyone help a fellow player ingame. Are you sure you are playing the same game ? Well that explains a lot Probably playing alone or with people like yourself.


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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #28 - May 7^th, 2015 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Lemming wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 10:07am: Well that explains a lot� Probably playing alone or with people like yourself. he could just be the pivot boy sorry. no appropriate pics for that comment


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merciless Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 273 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #29 - May 7^th, 2015 at 11:27am	Print Post
	Quote: I have never seen anyone help a fellow player ingame. Are you sure you are playing the same game ? That will be because: A: You are an arsehole. B: You have no friends. C: because of point A, it follows you are a member of a shitty guild with other arseholes. D: You will always be an arsehole.

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Teh_Troll Ex Member	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #30 - May 7^th, 2015 at 11:28am	Print Post
	merciless wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:27am: That will be because: A: You are an arsehole. B: You have no friends. C: because of point A, it follows you are a member of a shitty guild with other arseholes. D: You will always be an arsehole. tyvm. You can come visit Thelanis anytime .


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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #31 - May 7^th, 2015 at 11:39am	Print Post
	I would say: A: You are a troll. B: Trolls have no nipples. C: Because of point B, it follows you are incapable of providing new players a tit with which they can suckle upon. D: New players, fucking LOL.
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	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 818 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #32 - May 7^th, 2015 at 11:40am	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:23am: but unless I am in a guild that is active, I have no clue what im gonna do when I get to EPICS. If you're a new returning player, getting an active guild is essential IMO. You would be surprised how many masochists veterans keep many characters at low levels to run content of that level with newbies or guildies. Of course, the last time those players actually had a reason (specific loot for example) to run said content was 6 years ago or so. merciless wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:27am: That will be because: A: You are an arsehole. B: You have no friends. C: because of point A, it follows you are a member of a shitty guild with other arseholes. Teh_Fake is just lying. The majority of the population in Thelanis may be retarded but gotta admit people help eachother quite often, probably because everyone is bored to death.
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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #33 - May 7^th, 2015 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	Sasha wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:40am: If you're a new returning player, getting an active guild is essential IMO. I hear ya, just mulling through whether and/or which "wonderful" guild i "need or want" to join in order to update my skillz, aka gimp retarded ass finger flexing button mashing, for Epic content. Outside of that, I dont see massive (or for that manner) any large PUG raids, that used to be the norm on Thelanis. This place is a ghost town. Sans a guild, I am content with having and being forced to learn epics on my own. I am sure over time I will be able to handle epic normal and hards. Time will tell all though.


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Teh_Troll Ex Member	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #34 - May 7^th, 2015 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:29pm: I hear ya, just mulling through whether and/or which "wonderful" guild i "need or want" to join in order to update my skillz, aka gimp retarded ass finger flexing button mashing, for Epic content. Outside of that, I dont see massive (or for that manner) any large PUG raids, that used to be the norm on Thelanis. This place is a ghost town. Sans a guild, I am content with having and being forced to learn epics on my own. I am sure over time I will be able to handle epic normal and hards. Time will tell all though. The only things ran on thelanis are von 3, wiz king, spies and von 5/6.


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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #35 - May 7^th, 2015 at 12:37pm	Print Post
	Quote: The only things ran on thelanis are von 3, wiz king, spies and von 5/6. WOW - thanks for giving out the "short short" list. Now im gonna check out all the epic stuff and how those 5 quests translate to be the only worthy quests for epic/cap play.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #36 - May 7^th, 2015 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:23am: DDO seems lost now IMHO. All the changes originally is what led me to leave, but now it feels like there is no one really to play run with. Yes. It's better at peak times. But, it's not enough better.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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yardarm Ex Member	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #37 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	Quote: Too much retarded and less brain here. I am done. Quote: I have never seen anyone help a fellow player ingame. Are you sure you are playing the same game ?


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yardarm Ex Member	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #38 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Quote: Too much retarded and less brain here. I am done. Quote: tyvm. You can come visit Thelanis anytime� .


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yardarm Ex Member	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #39 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:17pm	Print Post
	Quote: Too much retarded and less brain here. I am done. Quote: The only things ran on thelanis are von 3, wiz king, spies and von 5/6.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #40 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:34pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:23am: I tell you what, I took a year and a half off and just got back into this game a month or so, just playing occasionally (may be 4-5 hours per week). I have been soloing everything I can, just visiting the old game quests; I am about to hit level 17 and now I am starting to look up and I notice, no one is around....I am on Thelanis. I pop into meridia...nothing, I tele over to amrath....not one person. I look up to see if there is another instance...nothing. I go check the social panel and then check for raids for my level.....Nothing. I myself have a HUGE curve to catch up on, but unless I am in a guild that is active, I have no clue what im gonna do when I get to EPICS. DDO seems lost now IMHO. All the changes originally is what led me to leave, but now it feels like there is no one really to play run with. You need to get to Forgotten Realms. There are quests in that range over there and Eveningstar is always busy enough. Amrath is dead because it was always shit and now people don't need the crap XP or the outdated gear.


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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #41 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:36pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:34pm: You need to get to Forgotten Realms. There are quests in that range over there and Eveningstar is always busy enough. Amrath is dead because it was always shit and now people don't need the crap XP or the outdated gear. Xp and gear, You hit the nail on the head.


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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #42 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:39pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:34pm: You need to get to Forgotten Realms. There are quests in that range over there and Eveningstar is always busy enough. Amrath is dead because it was always shit and now people don't need the crap XP or the outdated gear. Maybe therein lies my problem. I haven't quite explored everything yet and still visiting the old haunts. I was just running the meridia to get my access to the shroud and was gonna run amrath to be raid ready as well. To be honest, I never really cared for the gear out of amrath anyway. I keep hearing thunderforge, etc etc. SO seriously have to sit down this weekend and take a look at what I really want and review some of the "newer" quests available. Im gonna have to do it sooner rather then later because im nearing level 20


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #43 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:39pm: Maybe therein lies my problem. I haven't quite explored everything yet and still visiting the old haunts. I was just running the meridia to get my access to the shroud and was gonna run amrath to be raid ready as well. To be honest, I never really cared for the gear out of amrath anyway. I keep hearing thunderforge, etc etc. SO seriously have to sit down this weekend and take a look at what I really want and review some of the "newer" quests available. Im gonna have to do it sooner rather then later because im nearing level 20 I still like Amrath. There's been talk of Epicifying it forever. I hope they do. ToD is still a fun raid imo.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #44 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:44pm: I still like Amrath. There's been talk of Epicifying it forever. I hope they do. ToD is still a fun raid imo. It's on the docket, but it's supposed to be all new quests. I'm cool if they use the same (or similar) areas for the quests, since they're some of my favourites, visually. I also freakin' LOVE fighting devils and demons. Maybe we'll get to find out what that Mad Archon in the cave is all about.

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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #45 - May 7^th, 2015 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	well since im running a new toon, i will still get raid ready and get the boots and get shroud ready as well. but from what you guys r telling me there is no need to grind it out anymore for the gear is obsolete until epicfied


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #46 - May 7^th, 2015 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:57pm: well since im running a new toon, i will still get raid ready and get the boots and get shroud ready as well. but from what you guys r telling me there is no need to grind it out anymore for the gear is obsolete until epicfied Hey. Bauble is nice even though that's not a flag quest. The gear is pretty much lame at this point. It had some niche uses even up till a few months back. Now, I think even that is gone. Stuff that MIGHT be useful still: Holy Burst rings for monks Ranged Set for stacking ranged alacrity? I doubt the sets are useful given that it will take up two slots. Is there anything else?

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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merciless Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 273 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #47 - May 7^th, 2015 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:44pm: I still like Amrath. There's been talk of Epicifying it forever. I hope they do. ToD is still a fun raid imo. On my last life I pugged amrath with one other guy when I was 20 or 21 and fully destinied because we were bored and wanted yugo pots. It was a little sad really....once upon a time you would run those quests and basically be shit scared the whole time....now it is oneshotting everything.... still always will love the devil death animation though

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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #48 - May 7^th, 2015 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	DOH, Yugo pots. Forgot about those. They're still useful!

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Teh_Troll Ex Member	Re: "Compare that to world of warcraft I dare ya" Reply #49 - May 7^th, 2015 at 3:15pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 2:39pm: Maybe therein lies my problem. I haven't quite explored everything yet and still visiting the old haunts. I was just running the meridia to get my access to the shroud and was gonna run amrath to be raid ready as well. To be honest, I never really cared for the gear out of amrath anyway. I keep hearing thunderforge, etc etc. SO seriously have to sit down this weekend and take a look at what I really want and review some of the "newer" quests available. Im gonna have to do it sooner rather then later because im nearing level 20 There used to be impossible demands and rusted blades, but the nerf hammer goth both of them.


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