I know that Vargouille especially did alot of work on the Warlock and its his baby,Steelstar and Sev helped with the other trees too (Like their own project)

I have faith on Varg and Steel though to change things,Varg already asked for our feedback and proposals on the IRC and delayed the Lama release to implement some changes and good points that came up on the discussion.

Kookie and Steel are on vacations atm so i am waiting for the second Lama build that will have the final tree as well as some tweaks.

Unfortunately the direct feedback on the devchat in Lama was "make me huge,make me tiny,spawn mobs,make me 2D,spawn Epic Ring of the Baphomet" most of these monkeys didn`t even exited the Dojo to test Confusion ffs.

Anyway i will try again later that video i made was rushed and uploaded to get a taste of the warlock mechanics since that was the only LFM at Lama.

Also did MoD flagging and waiting for more mooks or the transfer tool to work so we can try more stuff.

Atm melee builds with aura (Paladin splashes mostly) were underwelming but they were gimps behind the keyboard so waiting for more people to try them

DropBear wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 5:38am:


Maybe they're responding to the "game is too easy" complaints by making EE harder by proxy; Warlock is their new baseline for damage output, and all other classes will be nerfed down accordingly.

It would be fitting with other Turbine "corrupt-a-wish" past performances.

Ah Pook wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 1:01pm:

It's like 1400 tp on lama. and knowing turbine it wont be free to vips.

I stopped using Mass confusion because it just not worth it and haven't showed the other innate abilities for the same reason

The damage if played like a ranged toon is shit and if i wanted a cc caster i would go bard and would also had decent melee damage.

I really wanted to like Warlock after the great job on rogues but i am dissapointed.

Sure one of the build monkeys will find an extremely powerful hybrid but still.

I just posted the videos because many theorycrafting  retards were pulling numbers out of their ass defending the new polished tard.

How off your maths are if you cant hit the fucking mob asshole?

Ah Pook wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 1:01pm:


Why Warlock? 
Probably the least amount of work to monetise something.
As you can see, they've just cobbled shit together and made a purple pew-pew effect.  Job done, minimal effort, sit back and watch the cash roll in as per the Piaz model.

Something wow would be something new - out of left field.
A new way to experience the game, like psionics.
But can you imagine the work involved in trying to implement that?
They'd gave to give up PacMan LARP time to do that and that ain't going yo happen.
I'm not suggesting psionics is a good idea for DDO as balancing it would be a royal PITA, but it would be something new.  And to be honest, I wouldn't trust the D team they have now to try something that ambitious.

Bacardi wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 10:13am:


Thanks Bacardi for the vids.

Nothing compelling for me there yet.

Let's see how they respond to the Lamm feedback.....

DropBear wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 7:02pm:


There were some excellent options available for them:

• Illusionists, if they were bent on caster, Short casting speeds and limited spells per character similar to the Sorc, lower mana costs. Trees with Illusion, Enchantment focus, providing DC amplification that is similar in form to the spell power amp driving the sorc's trees. Additionally adding options to buff the nature of the spells I.E. extending them, allowing them to impact resistant mobs like undead, constructs, animals, etc..  This would have also afforded them the option to introduce new spells and inherent SLAs.

• Warlords. Or marshals to you old guys! The return of the Team supporting class! non divine or arcane buffer melee class. That can provide attack, defensive, healing, dps increases, and Mob vulnerabilities  within their presence based on Intelligence or Charisma. No casting no singing a few SLAs coming in Trees that write themselves. Just the type of class to encourage running in groups and could fill the void the ill advised BYOH push from two years ago created. Team can succeed without a Marshal but for EE content or raids they would easily become a must have. Already being done on a very small scale withe some of the PDK SLAs.

• Warlock. If they did it right. 

I could go on, I agree the Psion would be great but like you I don't see the Developers capable of adding something so different to the bedrock code. Which is why I think they will continue to stall work on the Artificers, they don't know how all the people who did are gone. Another example is druids beast forms, the only reason the so-called wolf exploits haven't been fixed is there is no one left at turbine who was involved at the coalface of their creation. So nobody knows how to fix that code.


Revaulting wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 7:39pm:


I know!! I tried to explain to three new warlocks for about 10 minutes that they were not in fact OP, but that envenration of 1 level is always lethal to a mob with a CR of .25! 

And did I mention the speed of the blasts? There was a cheeky Bard running around racing the blasts that Warlocks were shooting, is it to much to hope they fix that?

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I believe the Illusionist would port across to DDO okay as a PC.
The major barrier thee is having develop enough Illusion spells to make the class worthwhile.
I love how some genius dev decided to include an item "Gloves of the Master Illusionist" but forgot to check if there were any Illusion spells actually useful at the level those Gloves come at.....


I look at my spell casters and nearly all the high level spells available are selected - there is no diversity in those upper level choices.
They should add some more upper level spells to all classes to encourage class and specialisation diversity, but again that is work.

Warlord sounds similar to the Captain in LOTRO?
That class would have been good a few years ago, but with less pugs and parties, the class is going to be less useful nowadays.
Those support classes are jack-of-all-trades, master of none, so they would struggle without the other classes filling roles.
A bit like Bard was for so many years.
Warlord would have to be different from Bards in a significant way too.
Yes, you could go with a non-spell casting party support but I'm not sure that it is markedly different from a Spellsinger Bard, just substituting their SP bar for something else?
I would suggest it might be quicker and easier to improve the Spellsinger and you have a ready made party buffer/CC.
Do a competent pass on the Spellsinger tree and look at the Bard ED. 

Wipe wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:29pm:


That's really my impression. Honestly I did only 2 quests and all I got from this class was that it's a shiradi spammer with horrible red named dps.

It was really boring.

Hiding wrote on Jun 1^st, 2015 at 5:55am:


Not according to the replies from my post on the motherboards

I haven`t touched casters other than my Tranny Wiz for ages i could do more rotations but there was no point really.

People are already trying max necro builds for instakills wails etc lets see how they perform

DropBear wrote on Jun 1^st, 2015 at 9:15am:


Yes, they are trying very hard to find the PnP Warlock in the Dog & Pony Show Turbine has given us under the Warlock name.
Eventually they'll discover that all their trials will fail... As the DDO Warlock is not a PnP Warlock... and it cannot be a PnP warlock due to the lack of lots of things in DDO ( starting with a third of the Alignments, said third being basically a requirement for the warlock  )