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Double rainbow average DPS
Jun 2nd, 2015 at 12:52am
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I have seen many sheets listing the double rainbow effects and what not, but has anyone seems numbers on average damage per hit?  Between odds of a hit procing an effect, odds of each effect, damage differences of single bursts/dots and what not it is a lot to work through.
  
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Re: Double rainbow average DPS
Reply #1 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 2:23am
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Just guess.  Difference is marginal either way.
  
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Re: Double rainbow average DPS
Reply #2 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 2:25am
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Probably easiest to Bruntsmash test it. Get an average with prism toggled on vs an average with prism toggled off. Maybe script the spell rotation to reduce error.
  

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Re: Double rainbow average DPS
Reply #3 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 5:12am
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There is a big difference between the damage Shiradi does when used with spells and metamagic feats active or when used with ranged or thrown weapons. As an endgame weapon user the damage bonus of LD should do more damage than the damage from Shiradi procs. And you should be able to keep the stacks maxed with manyshot/10kstars/fusilade/doubleshot anyway. Shiradi is just for getting primal past lives or when you need the CC from nerve venom/pin/whistle. If Shiradi does more damage than LD your weapon damage + attribute bonus before melee power is gimped (even as a shuricannon with 1d2 weapon die).

For casters with metas, good spellpower and multi-proc spells on the other side Shiradi can be nice because it is a good damage option without a DC and has built in CC. If you can go toe to toe with the mobs and have a good enough DC DI does more damage than Shiradi imho, but if mobs tend to save against you elemental burst you are better off spamming MM in Shiradi.




  

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Re: Double rainbow average DPS
Reply #4 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 4:27pm
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The average damage of Double Rainbow is lower than it was at U14, while most of its competitors have used their scaling to keep surging forward. As sad as it is to say, they've powercrept fun procs as a viable playstyle right out of contention if you're a ranged character.

That was my playstyle since 2010, and, personally, I just can't bring myself to log back in and play something else.
  
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Re: Double rainbow average DPS
Reply #5 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 7:19pm
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In this case I am running a thrower LD and all trash fall to fast to care about, but I want to up my dps vs bosses so looking at twists for this purpose.  Most twists whistler etc only really assist with trash.  So now looking at twisting in prism/double rainbow or Echoes of the Ancestors: Primal for +1 dex and 10% attack.  But without numbers on rainbow it is a tough call.  May do the math later, just hoped someone had already done it to save me the effort.
  
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Re: Double rainbow average DPS
Reply #6 - Jun 2nd, 2015 at 11:38pm
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fr8o wrote on Jun 2nd, 2015 at 7:19pm:
In this case I am running a thrower LD and all trash fall to fast to care about, but I want to up my dps vs bosses so looking at twists for this purpose.  Most twists whistler etc only really assist with trash.  So now looking at twisting in prism/double rainbow or Echoes of the Ancestors: Primal for +1 dex and 10% attack.  But without numbers on rainbow it is a tough call.  May do the math later, just hoped someone had already done it to save me the effort.


The procs change every update, so it's probably not worth bothering. If someone does, I'm curious about the numbers though.
  

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