So I hit 20 on my twf, started doing lowbie EEs - LOD, Servants - using khopesh w/greater paralyze (DC 25). Works wonders till 21, when you get the drow weapons. Anyways, hit 21 forgot to hit the bank and joined higher lvl EEs like Von 3 and Mirror and, strangely, the greater paralyze continued to work. Worked wonders in Von and I expected it to fail in Mirror at least, but there it was, working away, paralyzing Shadar Kai. It never used to work at all in those higher lvl quests, which is why I never considered them above lvl 21 weapons.

Did they nerf mobs? What's going on?

Any chance you joined a group with someone using the TF paralyze effect?

Gringo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Are you sure about that?

If the wiki is correct, TF paralyzing is a straight 5% (1 of 20) with no save roll.  Improved Paralyzing is listed as a DC 25 Will save on every hit.

In theory, those are very different.  Whether a DC 25 equals 1 in 20 depends on the mob's Will save.

In practice it may well be close to the same since most EE mobs would likely only fail a DC 25 check on a 1.  Is this what you were referring to?

i was referring to regular paralyzing with dc 17, but well on ee doesnot matter much if its 17 or 25

kum-gulp wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:


In the Von3 EE, that's totally possible. In the Mirror, I was alone when mobs were getting paralyzed.

Based on the above, maybe it's just attack speed and luck.