In memory of the most heroic thread in which Crane_Mace took on the bloated Fanboi Trolls and was eventually swallowed whole by Cordovan, the insecure Cube Rider.

His struggle was epic, batting aside the inane protestations of fanbois like Thurd, Urlock, and Leslie West.

Let us not let his tale be forgotten! Whenever a PUG hears whispers of his deeds and turns to the bard Google, let them find this memorial to his valiant effort to save Turdbin from themselves. I will provide a link here once Strake has the thread preserved in the shrine of drama, but until then, pile on your praise and testimonials, and Google it often so we rise high in the search rank!

After all, Turbine took away the only competing search result, that should let us win by default!

If you're a DDO player who heard about Crane_Mace and went to Google to find out what the fuss is about, allow me to explain.
Somebody (DigitalJC, I think) posted on the main forums a polite request to have an update dedicated to fixing some of the numerous bugs in DDO.

Fanbois, Urlock first but soon others, jumped on him insinuating he was a rude idiot for even implying DDO was imperfect or could be better. A brave newcomer, Crane_Mace, rushed to his aid, pointing out the fallacies and hidden agendas in the posts of said Fanbois.

They went rabid. Character assassination, personal attacks, throwing around "facts" newly minted to support their arguments, etc. Crane_Mace held his own nicely, politely but indisputably tumbling their shaky arguments.

In grand Turbine style, an intelligent opinion critical of the status quo could not be tolerated, so as soon as the game was out of maintenance Monday the thread was silently removed.

But we are not under Turbine control, and Fanbois don't have Cordovan to neuter effective counters to their jeers and insults. So the legacy of Crane_Mace lives on, read it in the link below!

https://archive.is/S17MQ
https://archive.is/DwGp4
https://archive.is/Fjhm6

Hopefully we'll have these in a more readable form soon, and there is also some interesting supporting conversation at the following

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1433772804
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1433673428

I should have clicked on that thread....I just assumed it was the same ole crap.

Cordo is the best recruitment tool the DDO Vault has ever had.

We should be thanking good ol' Jerry!

It appears the Snook wiped Crane off the boards as well. I would guess they found the 3 boxes of reputation he stacked up in a day's time a bit alarming.


Way to retain those new players Turbine, if your bugs don't make them leave maybe your fanbois and a ban will do the trick.

Wipe wrote on Jun 8^th, 2015 at 1:59pm:


The Cordobannister sends his regards 

Wow ... it's hard to believe that they actually wiped him.  Unless something more was written when I read the only thing you could "accuse" him of that might have violated the terms was his stating that they had an agenda.

Gonna have to sweep those archives and see if the ripped it up at the end for some reason.

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Not so with Uurlackey, he is still posting live.

I HATE Uurlock with a passion.  He is currently the reigning Dev kiss ass of the DDO forums.

GooFY wrote on Jun 8^th, 2015 at 4:45pm:

Ditto.

Well, I've been on the Jerry-hate bandwagon for a while, but for stuff like this.

I love this game, or at least what the game could be, and having these clowns shut down meaningful conversation over their buthurt egos is pathetic.

What this culture of censorship over engagement is doing to the game is already obvious to smart people, but I'd love to see this censorship have consequences so obvious even Turbine sees them. Like John Hancock signing the Declaration of Independence. He was even from Boston, wasn't he? What Irony 

More to come...

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If that's true, it sounds like a second documented offense, after the "tin foil hat" comments. A fair indication that Jerry meant none of his apology, and has broken the promise therein.

In any case, Cordovan is keeping up the tradition of using the report feature as a "click here if you're losing an argument you started" button.


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I bet the same folks behind the "tin foil hat" protests would be happy to take up the cause. If Crane Mace can be contacted, to confirm the ban, that would be best. It really hurts a protest if the wind can be taken out by revealing Crane Mace deleted his own account. Otherwise, it seems to me that two goals are in order: 1, An apology from Cordovan for rashly banning Crane Mace. 2, Immediate lifting of said ban.

Secret third: Document the whole exchange. More examples will accrue. It's Cordovan, after all. With enough fully documented exchanges, Turbine can be forced to change their non-compliance with their own posted policies. Turbine does not GAF, but WB can be made to pay attention.

Cordovan is shit at his job, but I'm fairly sure that replacing him would be treating the symptom, not the cause. Oddly enough, it could be that he's shit at his job because he hates decisions forced on him by management. Nobody has any illusions about where he sits on the totem pole.

Crane Mace responded to a troll. That is a violation of the forum rules, but nothing close to bannable. A reasonable protest would center around the need for reasonable responses, such as a warning, instead of the egregious overreaction of banning. In no reasonable scenario does the troll receive a lighter punishment than the one baited.

Revaulting wrote on Jun 8^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:


The account is still present:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/member.php/605486-Crane_Mace

Though it may have been banned. No way to tell without contact from the account owner.

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Man you should make a gallery of these.