Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 1:41am:
EU is not Europe. CECA and EEC are old forms/names of EU. You keep telling the same thing and going for EU.
For the matter at hand EU is Europe....
Otherwise Turkey wouldn't want to join since Turkey's territory does not belongh in majority to Europe and it's Culture does not belongs to Europe.
As I stated, Geographically and Geologically : Turkey is not an European Country and will bever be. Even if they have a small bit of land on the European side of the Bosphorus Straight.
The Fucking US of A would really like to have us ( Europeans ) to accept Turkey, but it's a case of
KOBOLD DO NOT WANT from everybody in Europe ( to go into full Whiny_Kobold Mode )
Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 1:41am:
as the Americans love to say : Fuck the UN.
Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 1:41am:
What you highlighted, it was twisted beyond recognition to allow Turkey in... because at that Time the Fucking US of A said that we had to... and since it was cold war and Krautland was just a huge battlefield waiting to happen eveybody bowed as Europe was busy clearing rubbles from WWII.
since you love wiki :
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The Council of Europe is not to be confused with the Council of the European Union (the "Council of Ministers") or the European Council. These belong to the European Union, which is separate from the Council of Europe, although they have shared the same European flag and anthem since the 1980s because they both work for European integration. The Council of Europe is not to confused with the European Union itself.
The Council of Europe is an entirely separate body[25] from the European Union. It is not controlled by it.
Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 1:41am:
Fuck the EU... if it was me it would have stayed L'Europe des Neuf or des Dix ( FrogLand, Krautland, Belgium, Nethereland, Luxemburg, Denmark, UK, Italy, Ireland and eventualy Greece ). Nice treaty, Shengen treaty and Maastrich treaty would never have been signed.
There would have been an european money ( the ECU : European Community Unit... it existed for a long time for EEC exchanges until Euro was created. ) but it would have appeared in the pockets of the people long after tax law and work laws were made the same across the Europe des Neuf/Dix.
It just happens that it's the trans-national organization that control much of what happens in Europe nowadays.
Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 1:41am:
Serbia and Macedonia might make it in the EU... I have doubt regarding Albania and Montenegro as long as they are Mafia held states...
As for Turkey...
All the European Politicans knows that nobody wants Turkey in Europe, that's why they all have been stalling for the last 20 years as accepting it ( without putting it through a whole country referendum ) would be the death of their political career.
Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 1:41am:
Just don't forget to inform UN and the Council of Europe. That'll be all.
They don't need to be informed... Both are a joke, the only issue with both is that they cost a lot of money... ( ok, in the case of UN there's some bits that have some use, like UNICEF, UNESCO ( and even UNESCO is erring on the side of uselesness in some cases )... )
Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 8:52am:
are you from Cyprus or Greece?
Either way, I don't have to do anything.
Bacardi is Greek from Greece...
But as a Rossbeef from the other side of the Chunnel you can't understand all that since you're getting ass fucked by the USA... and you love it. You're not really in Europe anyway, and if your newly reelected Prime Sinister has it his way, next year you'll leave the small part of it you're in....
I just can't wait for the Highlanders to ream you a new one by declaring Independance, joining fully the EU and building toll houses on the Hadrian Wall to make sure nothing comes North of it.
Bacardi wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 10:27am:
So with your logic if the Africans invade Italy and get Cicillia from now on Cicillia is part of Africa and not part of a European country being occupied?
Shhh, shh... Geologically most of Italy is not European... People might notice.... The Matterhorn is an African summit ( ok sitting on top of a good chunk of European Plate since it's at the boundary ).
Corse and Sardinia are on the other hand part of Europe ( they pivoted 90° after detaching from France and Spain ).
Bacardi wrote on Jun 13
th, 2015 at 10:27am:
I think Frog spammed his geological wisdom to prove that many fields have different definition of what Europe is.
I can go further... IIRC I already told you the whole stuff... anyway, here it is :
There is no Europe... Geologically there is Eurasia...
Lets start with the fucking place that we are talking about Turkey.
Everything North of the North Anatolian Fault is in Eurasia, the rest is not. Then onto Iran... Follow the Mountains to Afganistan and the Panshir, then to Karakorum ( Pakistan ), Pamir ( Inidia ) then go through Nepal, back to India for a few hundred klicks, the Buthan, and India once more... then go east south east through Burma, and Thailand... off to the sea... there you go off the Phillipine, and go straight North... Leave Japan to your west ( yes Japan is in Eurasia... well part of it ), at some point cut through japan and head straight between the Mainland of Siberia and the Kamchaka Peninsula... then off in the Arctic Ocean under the ice. now you head to the Middle of the Atlantic and cut Through Iceland ( side note : They toyed for a while with the idea of joining Europe... but they know better and have stopped considering it... anyway, they are not really European, since half the Island sits on the North American Plate ).
Now once you're more or less at the level of Gibraltar heads due east, cut a bit of Morroco and Algeria, go around Sardignia and go due North, follow the Alpine Arc ( almost at the Italian Boundary ), jump back into the sea near Venice, go around Greece ( north of Creta ), and go back north straight for Contantinople. ( well 20ish Kms west of it )
Each thing, each group of people has it's own definition of Europe... what Turkey wants is not to be concidered a geographically ( they allready are for some institutions ) or geologically ( they know they are mostly not in Europe and geology don't care about state boundaries ) European... what they want is to be concidered Economically ERuropean...
That is join the EU... Which will not happen for a long time if the EU people has it's say.
See I can be worse than Bacardi in biggotry, but I'm an Agnostic Frog.