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question about druid swf +twf build
Jun 11th, 2015 at 3:09am
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I wanted to give the druid swf + twf exploit a shot
Built an iconic shadarkai rogue/druid/ranger to test it out.

Was able to get both swf and twf feats after two levels of ranger, BUT I can't get them to work at the same time.

Is there some additional aspect to the trick I'm not aware of?
  
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 5:46am
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gadren wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 3:09am:
I wanted to give the druid swf + twf exploit a shot
Built an iconic shadarkai rogue/druid/ranger to test it out.

Was able to get both swf and twf feats after two levels of ranger, BUT I can't get them to work at the same time.

Is there some additional aspect to the trick I'm not aware of?


You have to press lmb.
  

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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #2 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 10:52am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 5:46am:
You have to press lmb.


Funny. I did. When I attack with two weapons equipped my attack animation is noticeably slower and I only have the twf icon active.
When I attack with one weapon equipped, I attack much faster but only the swf icon is active.
(Testing this in Winter Wolf form, if that makes a difference.)
  
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #3 - Jun 11th, 2015 at 10:58am
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1. be in wolf form
2. have a 1h weap equipped
3. have an orb equipped.
4. ????
5. Profit
  

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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #4 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 12:58am
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Bacon wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 10:58am:
1. be in wolf form
2. have a 1h weap equipped
3. have an orb equipped.
4. ????
5. Profit

OH! I had no idea you needed an orb equipped for it to work.
I'll try again with a sun elf test char.
  
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #5 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 1:12am
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gadren wrote on Jun 11th, 2015 at 10:52am:
Funny. I did. When I attack with two weapons equipped my attack animation is noticeably slower and I only have the twf icon active.
When I attack with one weapon equipped, I attack much faster but only the swf icon is active.
(Testing this in Winter Wolf form, if that makes a difference.)


Did you expect that this exploit build would also show you everything that applied?
One icon overriding the other is mainly due to nonstackable melee power buff.
While in wolf form you dont get offhand attacks.
Your mainhand attack gains a doublestrike effect equal to your TWF feat line. So, GTWF would be granting you 80%.
SWF grants you the extra speed.
At this point doublestrike % is actually providing you triplestrike chance.
Yeah, triplestriking, haste-boosted, swf speed wolf. That's why it's so good.

gadren wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 12:58am:
OH! I had no idea you needed an orb equipped for it to work.
I'll try again with a sun elf test char.


You don't need an orb for it to work, but an orb doesn't break SWF, so it's good to have one with spellpower and whatnot.
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #6 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 2:01am
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gadren wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 12:58am:
OH! I had no idea you needed an orb equipped for it to work.
I'll try again with a sun elf test char.

I really wish you were pretending. Best possible advice you could take would be to forget about exploits until you learn basic game mechanics first. Believe me, you'll have a less embarrassing soulstone.
  

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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #7 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 2:38am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 1:12am:
dragon's edge,


That orb doesn't work for druids.
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #8 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 3:33am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 2:38am:
That orb doesn't work for druids.


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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #9 - Jun 12th, 2015 at 11:07pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Did you expect that this exploit build would also show you everything that applied?
One icon overriding the other is mainly due to nonstackable melee power buff.

I didn't really expect anything, I'd never done this kind of thing. Just reporting what I saw.
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While in wolf form you dont get offhand attacks.
Your mainhand attack gains a doublestrike effect equal to your TWF feat line. So, GTWF would be granting you 80%.
SWF grants you the extra speed.
At this point doublestrike % is actually providing you triplestrike chance.
Yeah, triplestriking, haste-boosted, swf speed wolf. That's why it's so good.

OH! I had been given bad info going into this: I was told that you needed to wield two weapons, and because of the bugginess of animal form the game interpreted you as simultaneously qualifying for both fighting styles.

I didn't understand the point if you weren't wielding an offhand weapon. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me!

Revaulting wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 2:01am:
I really wish you were pretending. Best possible advice you could take would be to forget about exploits until you learn basic game mechanics first. Believe me, you'll have a less embarrassing soulstone.

My main has two past lives, but I didn't have any experience in this area of the game's mechanics. That's why I asked here, to better understand how the mechanics worked before proceeding.

Thank you for your concern, though! I'm touched Smiley
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 4:43am
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gadren wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 11:07pm:
I'm touched



Touched by a vaultie? Was it something like this?



Could be an interesting new show right.
  

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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #11 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 4:48pm
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Who Cares wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 4:43am:
Touched by a vaultie? Was it something like this?

http://i.imgur.com/rBAW6Kr.png

Could be an interesting new show right.


Well, I didn't want to give any of the hot details and embarrass poor Revaulting. (I think he's kind of shy.)
  
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #12 - Jun 13th, 2015 at 9:36pm
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gadren wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 11:07pm:
Thank you for your concern, though! I'm touched

Damn right you are.

gadren wrote on Jun 13th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
Well, I didn't want to give any of the hot details and embarrass poor Revaulting. (I think he's kind of shy.)

Awww. That's cute. I thought you were shy! Jinx.

Now deets. I was drunk. I need something to caption the photos.
  

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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #13 - Jun 14th, 2015 at 7:20am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 12th, 2015 at 1:12am:
Did you expect that this exploit build would also show you everything that applied?
One icon overriding the other is mainly due to nonstackable melee power buff.
While in wolf form you dont get offhand attacks.
Your mainhand attack gains a doublestrike effect equal to your TWF feat line. So, GTWF would be granting you 80%.
SWF grants you the extra speed.
At this point doublestrike % is actually providing you triplestrike chance.
Yeah, triplestriking, haste-boosted, swf speed wolf. That's why it's so good.


You don't need an orb for it to work, but an orb doesn't break SWF, so it's good to have one with spellpower and whatnot.


Thanks for the detailed explanation - I ran with a person using just this build today. Normally I dominate the kill counts, but he beat me in most quests by about 2:1, sometimes 2.5:1. There were just a couple quests where I nearly matched him or pulled ahead by a few.  And the kill counts of the rest of the players (full group) didn't even add up to mine; so most of the time this guy was getting more than 2 times everyone else's added together.

The whole time I kept thinking "druid can't be this good..." and now you've explained it - cheers Smiley
  
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Re: question about druid swf +twf build
Reply #14 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 6:19am
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Might as well link it if we're done trolling.

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