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Reply #250 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:06pm
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1. Did anyone actually get banned?
2. Did you help Cordovan decide who to ban?
3. Does Cordovan realize he is still an asshole and driving people away from the game by being that way?
4. Boobs
5. Donuts
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Reply #251 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:30pm
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geoffhanna wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
I did not post my admin logs yesterday because it violates the only rule you have here. Instead I sent screenshots to Strakeln. Is that "proof"? Not if you want to believe it isn't.

Strakeln wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 8:32pm:
Geoff did indeed send me screenies that drew a line between Factor and Hammertop.

The only new information this brings is that Factor and the person Factor already revealed she shares an IP with share an IP that "drew a line" with Hammertop. (Unless you're Meli, in which case you think that person is a sock, Factor is a sock, and/or Meli herself is a sock, because wow.)

I think I'm actually pissed off. Probably because you dimwits are treating it as a "gotcha" that Factor shares an IP, when that was never a secret, and freely revealed. Goddamn is that annoying. I don't even know why. It ought to be just another layer of hilarity, frosted over the whole drama cake.

Cause for suspicion? Sure. Throw around your suspicions. It makes a lot of sense, actually, if you bother to read Redacted, because fuck you if you can't read. Making sense = / = proof, just in case you fall into the following opinion....

Cause for certainty? You are a goddamn fuckwit. Or I'm Cordovan, because occasionally my VPN routes through the same Boston stop his office does. Proof!

And thanks for all the cocksucking.
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Reply #252 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:33pm
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So, if Factor is a sock of Hammertop, how does that invalidate Hammertop's points?

Here's a hint: it does not.

Fuck you. I'm not done with my pocorn.
  

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Reply #253 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:13pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:33pm:
Fuck you. I'm not done with my pocorn.


Not till you wash that pocorn off your hands!  Cheesy

ddg'd "pocorn", was not disappointed.

pocorn bored:


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http://www.greatis.com/appdata/d/p/pocorn64.exe.htm

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POCORN! (with boobs)



but seriously, I said if, and my position on calling out Cuntovan for the complete asswipe that he is should be pretty clear by now.
  
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Reply #254 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 12:43am
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ddg'd "pocorn", was not disappointed.

lol. For anyone starting a band, name it after a typo.


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but seriously, I said if, and my position on calling out Cuntovan for the complete asswipe that he is should be pretty clear by now.

No! Serious was what I was objecting to! I don't want to listen to reason, because once I do that, I'll agree with it!

You're exactly right that it doesn't matter what name we give to the person who made the points posted under "Hammertop." At the same time, pointing out reasonable things is the actual red herring in this whole mess. Or should I say ...

Red Menace!
  

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Reply #255 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 12:49am
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Is pocorn where your bag of popcorn runs up walls and does flips and shit?
  
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Reply #256 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 1:32am
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Didn't Factor get banned or something for shit they said here about Meli?

Seems to make a lot of sense to make a new sock if you're going after one of those tight with Cord.
  
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Reply #257 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 1:42am
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geoffhanna wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
Lessons learned

An awful lot of what was written about this event is wrong and, one assumes, written by "me too" people who did not bother to go to my site and see what was really there. But you already know this.


If you're too lazy to post it here where we can see your edits I'm not going to go to your site.
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Reply #258 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 2:39am
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geoffhanna wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
Hammertop and Factor share an IP address and post within a couple of hours of each other.


Let's assume they are the same person. So what?
What matters is if he/she/it is telling the truth or not.

  
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Reply #259 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 3:51am
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:33pm:
Fuck you. I'm not done with my pocorn.


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Reply #260 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 6:05am
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geoffhanna wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
I'm the bestamest!


This whole mess is:

tl; bra (but read anyways)

I wish a certain gamergirl becomes a widow after this...

  

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Reply #261 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 8:08am
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geoffhanna wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
Lessons learned

An awful lot of what was written about this event is wrong and, one assumes, written by "me too" people who did not bother to go to my site and see what was really there. But you already know this.

I wrote about the Vault a week or so ago for several reasons but one of them was because I think there are people here who love the game and are under-served. I posted a link to the article because I was hoping some of you would contribute. I did not bring yesterday's adventure here, Hammertop did, although I did respond. Several times.

Hammertop and Factor share an IP address and post within a couple of hours of each other. If you want to believe that Hammer's IP was released (by Cox, according to whois) and randomly assigned to Factor by some insane stellar coincidence, well, I guess have fun with that.


I don't think you learned anything, but I learned quite a bit about you, and I'm disappointed.

I learned that rather than redact content you found inappropriate for your site, you chose to replace it with your own words that were pretty inflammatory.  Had you not tried to spin Hammertop's post, very little of this would have happened.  What you describe as Hammertop's "personal attacks" were not personal attacks at all and were simply calling out the people who were violating Jerry's whimsically enforced CoC at Hammertop's expense.

I learned that you choose to double down on "I'm RIGHT, Dammit", rather than evaluate your mistakes dispassionately and change the course of your actions. 


I think a lot less of you now, Geoff.  All of this was avoidable, and none of it had to happen in the first place.

You were wrong.  Regardless of whether or not anyone else also acted wrongly, you need to admit and accept your own mistakes, and not in the snide manner that Jerry "apologized" for his tin foil had remarks.
  

Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:43pm:
they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things.
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everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game
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I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy.
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DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass.
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Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence.  
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Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up.
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Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close.
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Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy.
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Reply #262 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 9:37am
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So, if Factor is a sock of Hammertop, how does that invalidate Hammertop's points?

Here's a hint: it does not.

The fact is that Cuntovan's biased mismanagement of the forum community is doing real harm to the game, and has been for a long time.

I actually find it funny how is Geoff trying to blame this whole drama on some mean villain who is using socks when in fact we have absolutely no proof of Hammertop having sock. Or did I miss some big revelation where there was discovered another account on mobos linked to Hammertop? Or does the fact that I and many other people participate on different kind of forums under different nicknames all over the internet make us socks too? I don't think so. It is pretty obvious, Geoff, that you have tried to construct this 'bad guy using socks situation' to get fanbois and couple other dumbasses on your side. Pretty jerk move.
  
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Reply #263 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:25am
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absolutely no proof of Hammertop having sock


Depends on your definition of proof...

It was definitely asserted by Jerry that Hammertop was a sock during one of the especially yawn-worthy threads on the issue over there.
  
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Reply #264 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:34am
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OldCoaly wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 8:08am:
I don't think you learned anything, but I learned quite a bit about you, and I'm disappointed.

I learned that rather than redact content you found inappropriate for your site, you chose to replace it with your own words that were pretty inflammatory.  Had you not tried to spin Hammertop's post, very little of this would have happened.  What you describe as Hammertop's "personal attacks" were not personal attacks at all and were simply calling out the people who were violating Jerry's whimsically enforced CoC at Hammertop's expense.

I learned that you choose to double down on "I'm RIGHT, Dammit", rather than evaluate your mistakes dispassionately and change the course of your actions. 


I think a lot less of you now, Geoff.  All of this was avoidable, and none of it had to happen in the first place.

You were wrong.  Regardless of whether or not anyone else also acted wrongly, you need to admit and accept your own mistakes, and not in the snide manner that Jerry "apologized" for his tin foil hat remarks.

Well said, and I feel the same.

Geoff, I don't visit your site often, but I liked it and liked that it was there to energize and engage new players, I thought it was good for the game.

I even agree that people have gone about airing their complaints badly, I'd have been annoyed at a demand when a polite request would have sufficed. But I would have thought you'd take the high ground, for the good of the game if not for your reputation.

But now Hammertop is gone, and Factor smeared, your "lessons learned" a travesty.

Your accusation is based on an IP address the two shared, did you check to see if it was a known TOR or VPN exit point? Did you check to see if anyone else had that IP in the past? If both of them have consistently used that IP? And even if they absolutely were the same person, is dragging it back to the main forums and getting a whistleblower banned helpful or right or appropriate?

I hope I'm wrong, but it sure looks like you let petty vindictiveness guide your hand and did more harm than good to a game you claim to love.
  

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Reply #265 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:40am
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Meursault wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:34am:
Well said, and I feel the same.

Geoff, I don't visit your site often, but I liked it and liked that it was there to energize and engage new players, I thought it was good for the game.

I even agree that people have gone about airing their complaints badly, I'd have been annoyed at a demand when a polite request would have sufficed. But I would have thought you'd take the high ground, for the good of the game if not for your reputation.

But now Hammertop is gone, and Factor smeared, your "lessons learned" a travesty.

Your accusation is based on an IP address the two shared, did you check to see if it was a known TOR or VPN exit point? Did you check to see if anyone else had that IP in the past? If both of them have consistently used that IP? And even if they absolutely were the same person, is dragging it back to the main forums and getting a whistleblower banned helpful or right or appropriate?

I hope I'm wrong, but it sure looks like you let petty vindictiveness guide your hand and did more harm than good to a game you claim to love.


Very well said.
  
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Reply #266 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:46am
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Myrddinman wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:40am:
Very well said.

Not really.
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Reply #267 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 11:07am
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Arkat wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:46am:
Not really.


Perhaps I should clarify...

Meursault wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:34am:
Geoff, I don't visit your site often, but I liked it and liked that it was there to energize and engage new players, I thought it was good for the game.


Meursault wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:34am:
I even agree that people have gone about airing their complaints badly, I'd have been annoyed at a demand when a polite request would have sufficed. But I would have thought you'd take the high ground, for the good of the game if not for your reputation.


Meursault wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:34am:
I hope I'm wrong, but it sure looks like you let petty vindictiveness guide your hand and did more harm than good to a game you claim to love.


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Skoodge wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 3:51am:


Those are not boobs. You promised boobs!

In almost every post!
  
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Reply #269 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 4:11pm
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Hiding wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 11:49am:
Those are not boobs. You promised boobs!

In almost every post!


I spent a number of years working for the Republicans.  I learned sometimes you have to make promises you have no intention of keeping to get what you want.  Sorry.

  

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Reply #270 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 7:33pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:30pm:
or Meli herself is a sock



I'd rather fuck a sock.  smells better.  less chafing.  I know where it's been.  and I don't have to pull out before I finish.


Revaulting wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 10:30pm:
And thanks for all the cocksucking.


who doesn't love a little cocksucking?  Smiley
  

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Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Reply #271 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 7:44pm
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Yobai wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 7:33pm:
who doesn't love a little cocksucking?

People who love a lot of cocksucking.
  

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Reply #273 - Jun 27th, 2015 at 3:32am
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Butt still sore?
  

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Reply #274 - Jun 27th, 2015 at 8:19am
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Strakeln wrote on Jun 27th, 2015 at 3:32am:
Butt still sore?


It never was.

It was interesting to see this as the outside perspective as well though.
  
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