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Do We Have a Troll in Our Midst?
Jun 25th, 2015 at 2:44pm
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DDOGamer.com website front page reads:

"So it seems that I made three errors yesterday that resulted in everyone (and by “everyone” I mean both of you who occasionally read this site) getting splashed with a slobbery mess of rage and hate.

My apologies to those of you who had to wade through it, and my thanks for those who posted kind words while trying to navigate the frothy maelstrom.

Without getting too weepy, here is what I did wrong:

I believed that a seemingly very earnest guy named “Hammertop” was a real person (although in fact he turned out to be a sock puppet of a person who uses the DDOVault account “Factor“).

I thought his issue regarding the DDO forums was real too, and worth discussing (whereas in fact the whole thing was an elaborate and unusually long-running troll)

When the topic started to generate more-than-expected heat, I thought I would be able to address it with honesty and transparency (uselessly, as the people who are raising the drama are really only after drama: intentions and facts are irrelevant).

So again, apologies to those who may have come here yesterday for a light read and bad haiku but instead found themselves hip-deep in ugly.

Tomorrow, back to inanity and useless drivel, like usual."
  

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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 2:45pm
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Several probably.
  

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Reply #2 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 2:53pm
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We're all trolls.  Just one might have a little more free time than the rest of us.
  

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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 2:54pm
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So that is how many times he has made the claim with nothing but "his word" to back it up?

Anyone keeping track? because that number is getting bigger all the time.

Isn't it interesting that he posts this over there and not here? after spending days posting and whipping up attention for his "vault" thread here on the vault last week and then gleefully posting again and again in threads here yesterday he is now gone and decides to post this there instead, "preaching to the choir" full stop....

Oh! that's right, he got caught telling lies here on the vault, and had multiple examples of how he had lied about the comments, editing the comments, and the content of the comments. And of course when he tried to call factor/Hammer he couldn't back it up.

No wonder he posted this there where he has full control to tell whatever tales he wants with no one busting him.
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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 2:56pm
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Maybe some trolls but Geoff has nothing. He tried to valiantly defend himself yesterday and failed. If he had any whiff of proof that Factor was Hammer or whatnot, he'd have posted that up immediately. All he had was suspicion and he thought he could coerce Factor into admitting (if he indeed is/was Hammer).

If he posted proof, this would all be over and he wouldn't be spewing still. He's trying to muddy the waters but he's just sinking in is own quicksand.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 2:59pm
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I especially like the part where he waxed so poetic about how great being a successful troll was, and how everyone would clap.

And when his "Proof" was that any Troll would want the credit, that really said so much about young Geoff didn't it?
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 5:34pm
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This is not how to end drama. He wants the show to go on.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:08pm
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I believe that he is just trying to drum up traffic for his site.
Any other theories?
  

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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:12pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 5:34pm:
This is not how to end drama. He wants the show to go on.


Yep. He always has to have the last word, and is pretty stubborn. Just listen to him debate anything when he's on DDOCast.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:32pm
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Mr wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
I believe that he is just trying to drum up traffic for his site.
Any other theories?



Yes, totally the opposite, I think he is trying to sweep it under the rug and save face, just not very well.

Looking at what he posted as the main body, the comments he made in response to thaz in the comment section, the way he has deleted other comments today, and finally the way he has been lurking over here on and off all day?

All that leaves me fairly convinced that he has tried to tie the whole mess up with a bow made of some broad generalities and excuses ("no one would believe my proof"), and is now checking to see if it is going to quietly drift off the consciousness of the vault and his posters.

This is actually that dumb fucker's idea of a subtle approach, the fact that he doesn't want any more heat or scrutiny is born out be the fact that he hasn't been over to post a link to his site today as well. Normally he posts a link here first thing if he is talking shit about the vault or members of the vault if only to drive traffic to his sight.

If you look at what he has done toady it's really an exercise in frightened balance, he is writing the minimum amount needed to save face with his site's regulars to right the boat without drawing the attention of those who have his number.

He can delete any posts we make calling him out over there but as Joe showed yesterday, if Geoff is forced to delete posts constantly to protect his images it starts to look bad even to those who have drank the cool-aid.
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:11pm
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Hag Master wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:32pm:
Yes, totally the opposite, I think he is trying to sweep it under the rug and save face, just not very well.

Looking at what he posted as the main body, the comments he made in response to thaz in the comment section, the way he has deleted other comments today, and finally the way he has been lurking over here on and off all day?

All that leaves me fairly convinced that he has tried to tie the whole mess up with a bow made of some broad generalities and excuses ("no one would believe my proof"), and is now checking to see if it is going to quietly drift off the consciousness of the vault and his posters.

This is actually that dumb fucker's idea of a subtle approach, the fact that he doesn't want any more heat or scrutiny is born out be the fact that he hasn't been over to post a link to his site today as well. Normally he posts a link here first thing if he is talking shit about the vault or members of the vault if only to drive traffic to his sight.

If you look at what he has done toady it's really an exercise in frightened balance, he is writing the minimum amount needed to save face with his site's regulars to right the boat without drawing the attention of those who have his number.

He can delete any posts we make calling him out over there but as Joe showed yesterday, if Geoff is forced to delete posts constantly to protect his images it starts to look bad even to those who have drank the cool-aid.


<whack!>

"Oh, no, that new post tells the truth about me lying again!"

<whack!>

"Stop, stop!"

<whack!>

"I'll delete you all!"

<whack!>

"You miserable trolls!  Take down your words!"

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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:57pm
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Hag Master wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:32pm:
"no one would believe my proof"

Is that an actual quote? Looks like a tin-foil hat.
  

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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:08pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
Is that an actual quote? Looks like a tin-foil hat.


Geoffhardup wrote:
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"oh miki please please show me your lady parts, I need to see... those, I never have....


Whoops wrong quote that was from his fanfic site... ah here it is

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Micki, no matter what I post, those who don’t want to accept it will not.



http://www.gamergeoff.com/in-which-your-intrepid-narrator-dives-headfirst-into-a...
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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:21pm
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So, not accepting his crazy bullshit as truth makes us the crazy one's? We're all batshit insane then.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:35pm
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Ginger_Walri wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:21pm:
So, not accepting his crazy bullshit as truth makes us the crazy one's? We're all batshit insane then.


Wait, you were on the Vault and thought you weren't?

We've got a sane one here, folks! Code Red, I repeat, Code Red!
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:48pm
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WeHaveLived wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:35pm:
Wait, you were on the Vault and thought you weren't?

Insane people usually don't think they're the fucked up ones.
  
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Ginger_Walri wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:48pm:
Insane people usually don't think they're the fucked up ones.


Dunno, I'm pretty sure most people with real mental problems know there's something missing, some way they're not normal, especially if they've had any interactions with the public.

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Reply #17 - Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:19pm
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Hag Master wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
Geoffhannah wrote:
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Micki, no matter what I post, those who don’t want to accept it will not.

So no, is what you're saying.
  

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Ginger_Walri wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:48pm:
Insane people usually don't think they're the fucked up ones.


Ah, sweet, I'm ok then.
  
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Hiding wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 12:08am:
Ah, sweet, I'm ok then.

He said, "usually."
  

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Mr wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:08pm:
I believe that he is just trying to drum up traffic for his site.
Any other theories?



Sorry,
what did you say?
(was too busy looking at your gifs)
  

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Reply #21 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 2:44am
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Hag Master wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
Geoffhardup wrote:

Whoops wrong quote that was from his fanfic site... ah here it is

Geoffhannah wrote:


http://www.gamergeoff.com/in-which-your-intrepid-narrator-dives-headfirst-into-a...


I don't know why he would need to be so cryptic. He started posting here on the vault and on his blog that Hammer and Factor are the same person... but he didn't say anything about why he thought so (unless I really missed it). If you want to be taken somewhat seriously, I'd assume you'd write something like "as admin of this site I have looked at the IP addresses of the ppl commenting, and it would seem that Factor and Hammer are the same person". But he did not. Instead he just started making accusations, which though understandable, it's not really something I can respect.

I like Geoff, I like his blog. I just don't like the way he handled this situation. And I'm not sure I think it's right that he posted that blog in the first page.
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 3:45am
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Trolls?

Nope. Seen None.

  
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Reply #23 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 4:00am
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yes we are all trolls around here...

The Vault should be named : alt.games.ddo.The.Vault.trollden  to the official rec.games.ddo ( moderated )

but it's going to take Arkat some time to explain that....  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #24 - Jun 26th, 2015 at 10:37am
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Angry wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 2:44am:
I like Geoff, I like his blog. I just don't like the way he handled this situation. And I'm not sure I think it's right that he posted that blog in the first page.


I feel the same way. I had always respected Geoff and his dedication to promoting DDO (consistently updated blog, providing a site for others to blog about DDO on, his work on DDOCast, and quirky sense of humor).

However, like you, this has left a bad taste in my mouth and has confirmed some of my suspicions regarding how he's been behaving in podcasts lately. There was no reason to take a comment from Hammer/aka in a past blog post, and single him out for an entirely new post. Just that alone was unprofessional enough, and quite honestly should sever his claim as an official DDO Fan Site (but I guess this is just another in a long line of favoritism-skewed rules). Making matters even worse, he exhibited epic failed journalistic integrity by paraphrasing, rather than redacting. Taking it even further, he wrote another article basically saying "The troll made me do it".   

Very disappointing.
  
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