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doyourealyknow Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 293 Joined: Nov 13^th, 2013 Gender:	When did they sneak Fix that Jul 8^th, 2015 at 8:41am	Print Post
	i remeber if you wanted to run beyond the rift and had not done the spinners prison yet you could teleport to evenigstar by key or logout and enter the quest from the caverns portal (that one to the ship). this portal show now only options to the ship and the deamonweb if you havent done spinner yet.... booooohhhhhh


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TheFifthSock Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 265 Location: The Rusty Nail Joined: Sep 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #1 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 8:58am	Print Post
	Isn't it nice how they spend time and fix the REALLY important issues in the game.


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klajsdhd Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 165 Joined: Dec 18^th, 2013	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #2 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:04am	Print Post
	they've also sneak fixed cocoon too


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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #3 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:07am	Print Post
	Not sure if this is the same thing, but there is a bug with some of the iconics. Even after completing the chain, you are not able to get back to spinners prison. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/460964-Eveningstar-to-Eberron-travel The last theory was that iconics that start in Forgotten Realms do not get the "return to spinner's prison" option... I know that at least pdks don't (or didn't last I checked). So... wild guess, you're playing a pdk (or sun elf or shadarkai)?
	« Last Edit: Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:08am by Angry »

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doyourealyknow Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 293 Joined: Nov 13^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #4 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:07am: So... wild guess, you're playing a pdk (or sun elf or shadarkai)? Havent thought about that being an iconic (sun elf right now) could cause that. will log on my monk and see if he can enter the spinners prison


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Jeff_Stryker Waterworks Kobold Offline Zero Posts: 115 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2014	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #5 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 10:32am	Print Post
	doyourealyknow wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 10:19am: ... see if he can enter the spinners prison Make sure he's wearing protection...


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #6 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 10:40am	Print Post
	klajsdhd wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:04am: they've also sneak fixed cocoon too Crap, I worked my ass off to get cocoon on my wizard, what had they considered bugged? I bet they didn't fix healing spring killing your undead summons, that would have benefitted players, can't have that

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1197 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 10:40am: Crap, I worked my ass off to get cocoon on my wizard, what had they considered bugged? I bet they didn't fix healing spring killing your undead summons, that would have benefitted players, can't have that� They fixed cocoon so that it now behaves like every other healing spell. You can only cast it if you have a visual line of your target and cannot bypass barriers.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	That's what I was afraid of but didn't want to mention in case it wasn't on their list, oh well�

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #9 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	TheFifthSock wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 8:58am: Isn't it nice how they spend time and fix the REALLY important issues in the game.� quality of life?

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Ginger_Walri Titan Demolisher Offline Fire. Die In It. Posts: 325 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2014	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #10 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 12:47pm: quality of life? What type of heresy is this?!


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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 12:10pm: That's what I was afraid of but didn't want to mention in case it wasn't on their list, oh well� Yeah, I KNEW that was going to be changed someday and wasn't surprised in the least. I definitely enjoyed it while it lasted though.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #12 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 6:30pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 12:47pm: quality of life? I love that euphemism. It's a pretty lopsided fix list from the player's perspective. They say we're the tin foil hat brigade, but they fix cocoon which was not really detrimentally affecting the game, yet leave other things that really irk players. As a professional, wouldn't you have a priority structure? I think of it like this, you're car is running rough and not working properly, so you take it to the mechanic. The mechanic has it all day, and when you pick it up they have washed it and vacuumed the floor mats, but never even opened the bonnet. They explain, "But look how clean it is?" Missing the point devs. Address the stuff that pisses your customers off first. Fix exploits that detrimentally affect the game/store sales too. But trivial shit like this is either lazy (easy fixes) or just sad.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #13 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 7:12pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 6:30pm: Missing the point devs. Address the stuff that pisses your customers off first. Fix exploits that detrimentally affect the game/store sales too. But trivial shit like this is either lazy (easy fixes) or just sad. This. Even if you could fix an easy one that benefits players, leave it in until you get the stuff that bugs players fixed. You aren't losing money having cocoon work through obstacles, but you are losing money when players say they hate how Turbine fixes things that benefit players and leave things that penalize them so they don't want to spend money. Maybe they don't manage to spend zero, but they do spend less than they would if they felt you treated them fairly. And it doesn't matter at all if you have a spreadsheet showing you fix them equally, if the perception is that you are unfair, you get burned for it. You have to be above reproach, and if there is any doubt, err on the side of pleasing your customers. Of course, I don't know why I'm bothering to lecture Turdbin at this point, Severance Pay is packing his metaphorical bags as we speak, and the new producer isn't going to wade back weeks or months through the vault to find what is angering customers. Even if he's great he'll have plenty immediately on his plate and won't need to go back more than a few days to get a ton of material

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #14 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 8:56pm	Print Post
	Someone should make a list of all the stupid "fixes" they've done over the years. Not even talking about fixing exploits. ...Extra crates in kobold ringleader? :<


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CosmicCharlie Shroud Slacker Offline How do you do? Posts: 1152 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2012	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #15 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:08pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 6:30pm: Missing the point devs. Address the stuff that pisses your customers off first. Fix exploits that detrimentally affect the game/store sales too. But trivial shit like this is either lazy (easy fixes) or just sad. Yes this is their MO, but why? Seriously for what purpose? It isn't just out of pure evil, is it? What business consequences are involved?


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CosmicCharlie Shroud Slacker Offline How do you do? Posts: 1152 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2012	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #16 - Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:09pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 8:56pm: Someone should make a list of all the stupid "fixes" they've done over the years.� Not even talking about fixing exploits.� ...Extra crates in kobold� ringleader? :< Haha yep so you have to kill a few more kobolds first before finishing out...makes you add an extra 10 seconds to the zerg. So stupid my god.


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Forest Ex Member	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #17 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 2:32am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 8:56pm: Someone should make a list of all the stupid "fixes" they've done over the years.� Not even talking about fixing exploits.� ...Extra crates in kobold� ringleader? :< Seriously? when did they do that? And of all the quests to waste time on, that is one that I tend to just blitz 6 times fast for the xp and move on, I haven't bothered with chests in a couple years in there.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #18 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 6:56am	Print Post
	Quote: Seriously? when did they do that? And of all the quests to waste time on, that is one that I tend to just blitz 6 times fast for the xp and move on, I haven't bothered with chests in a couple years in there. Because their data shows ... that quest was over performing.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #19 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 6:59am	Print Post
	klajsdhd wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:04am: they've also sneak fixed cocoon too Ye, its terrible. And useless now, i will just use cure light wounds scrolls.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #20 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 7:02am	Print Post
	CosmicCharlie wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 9:08pm: Yes this is their MO, but why? Seriously for what purpose? It isn't just out of pure evil, is it? What business consequences are involved? It's been consistent across Producers and Developers, so it must be an organisational or cultural thing. I suspect there is likely no specific intent, but there would be psychological element where as a game developer, you believe that bugs that benefit players are cheats/exploits because it makes the content easier than intended. For some reason, there are probably more kudos associated with fixing these than negative player bugs (orgn cultural element). The other component I suspect is the easy fix syndrome. Many of the negative player bugs probably require more work and so the low hanging fruit are targeted. Because the positive bugs are likely just unintended consequences, they turn out to be easier to fix through tweaks rather than recoding.

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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #21 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 7:04am	Print Post
	Soooo what the fuck was cocoon doing that needed fixed? AFAICT it has worked as described since its introduction to the game and I havn't seen any differences at all since that something was supposedly fixed.

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Ginger_Walri Titan Demolisher Offline Fire. Die In It. Posts: 325 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2014	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #22 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 7:29am	Print Post
	Mokune wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 7:04am: Soooo what the fuck was cocoon doing that needed fixed? AFAICT it has worked as described since its introduction to the game and I havn't seen any differences at all since that something was supposedly fixed. It could heal through any barrier, walls, doors, etc. No line of sight whatsoever was required.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #23 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 8:14am	Print Post
	Ginger_Walri wrote on Jul 9^th, 2015 at 7:29am: It could heal through any barrier, walls, doors, etc. No line of sight whatsoever was required. Yes it was actually useful - especially for healers who had to chase after tanks and zergers. And when your critically timed heal spell failed because there was a pebble between you, Cocoon was the panic button.

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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: When did they sneak Fix that Reply #24 - Jul 9^th, 2015 at 9:59am	Print Post
	heh, i used it mostly for healing dummies in grav room in deathwyrm - now the poor puggies will die:)


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