mystafyi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:

After you do that, start the trilogy that starts with The Crystal Shard. That trilogy was the first one that Salvatore wrote with Drizzt and his friends but the trilogy that mystafyi suggested is chronologically first.

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mystafyi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Elf_Trilogy
    Homeland (1990)
    Exile (1990)
    Sojourn (1991)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Icewind_Dale_Trilogy
    The Crystal Shard (1988)
    Streams of Silver (1989)
    The Halfling's Gem (1990)

Selee wrote on Aug 15^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:


Vin Diesel is far too old to play the barely adult Wulfgar!
Scarlet Johanssen is too old to play the Teenaged Catti-Brie!
Jude Law playing Drizz't? EURRGHHH!

FranOhmsford wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 10:37am:


Well at least the Feminazis where happy.... Arwen got to do more than be cute and marry the Hero in the movie...

I'm still chocking over what they did with the Bruinen Ford... Arwen has no place there against The Nine...
Glorfindel OTOH had all the reasons of the world to be there... He is one of the few Calaquendi left that actually fought Balrogs and stuff at some point. He is powerful enough to make the Nazguls pause.
( ok, Add Cirdan, Galadriel, Celeborn to the list of those that could have held that ford, but well they can hardly help a band of Hobbit and a ranger. Elrond doesn't qualify : he is not a full Elf... and he never saw the Light of the Trees.  Ok, I should stop there, I'm going into full Endor Geek Mode... )

Flav wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

Not quite true. Yes, he, like his brother, was not born of two elven parents but he and his brother were given a choice of which race to be. Elrond chose to be an elf and even though he did not see the light of the trees like Galadriel, he was just as much an elf as Arwyn. They were both immortal (except Arwyn gave hers up like Elrond's brother did). Elrond's brother (I forget his name at the moment) chose to be Human and got all the benefits of being human such as growing old and dying.

Arkat wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 8:43pm:


Still, that doesn't qualify him... He is not a Calaquendi... He never saw the light of the Trees.

Edit : oh and the brother was Elros... and their parents was Beren ( Human ) and Luthien ( 1/2 Elf/Maia )... Luthien Parents were Melian ( the Maia ) and Thingol ( a Moriquendi Elf... a Sindar, though because his close association with Melian he is considered to having seen the Light of the Trees )

Arkat wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 9:30am:


While I agree with your idea, please don't actually suggest it to any producers you know Arkat. I'm a fan of the entire world setting and its lore but I hate the part where they made it into 3 looooong movies.

The LotR novels were ok as a trilogy as the length and description Tolkien goes through can be fitted into 5 movies even if budget allows but The Hobbit was saddening due to being ~9 hours. There was even a dedicated fan who compressed the 3 hobbit movies into a single movie and it ended up being around 4 hours long and it was going according to the book. Made for an interesting watch. Will link it when I can find it.

EDIT: Had the hours wrong. ~4 hours is the correct time.

Arkat wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 9:30am:


I agree with the Idea... well a good number of the events that happen in the Silmarillion would make great films.

Galadriel wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 9:53am:


Yeah, the 9 Hour long Hobbit is an idiocy...

Now I don't think there's chances for films based on the Silmarillion to be made soon...

The issue with the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings is that the rights to them are owend by Saul Zaentz ( aka Tolkien Enterprise, aka Middle Earth Enterprise ), and it's going to fall into the public domain soon... So they had to do something about it to get a lot of money before it fell into the public domain.
While all the rest is still owned by the Tolkien Estate ( aka The Tolkien Familly ), and they rarely license stuff... and AFAK they never licenced anything to medias like TV or movie, or game companies... ( and there's no public domain issue, since Christopher Tolkien dilligently publish a new book based on his father notes every few year... The counter stays at 70 years after his death ( Christopher death that is ) )

That's why LoTRO is just following what is written in the LoTR, that's also why all the PnP Games that tried to exploit the license after ICE demise failed miserably ( they didnt have access to all the Silmarillion stuff... that's something ICE had somehow managed to coax out of the Tolkien Familly )

Edit : if somebody find a cheap ( less than 50$ ) Palantir Quest ( MERP 2nd Edition Adventure ), I'm willing to sort out payment and shipping  ( as well as enough change for a beer on my behalf ), as it's the only MERP book I'm missing in my collection ( which include al lthe rest, with the reprints, the cover changes and all [yes that means that I have 3 Northern Mirkwood as well as the (In)famous Courts of Ardor ]... )

Flav wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

Exploit: Sell it to Disney, and congress will write a special bill to extend the copyright.

mojo wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:


And the game/servers are prepped for an influx of new players......
They're already on their knees and crippled withe hardly any players.

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 1:29am:


Amazon : oversea shipping... lots of US seller won't  do it or at a prohibitive price...

Typical example : in the list, the affordable ones do not ship oversea.
The first one that does international shipping is at 124$ and I have to add 47$ if I want it in a decent amount of time.
( not going to wait 6 weeks for it )
And that's just for the used section... for the New section it's not better.

No point to sending me to Amazon UK... 90 Quids that's more than 100 Euros... ( I don't count the shipping from UK, it's not expensive )

And I already have the electronic version, it's not as if it was hard to find. I want the dead tree version for the collection...

It's hard to find because it's the only pre-chewed campaign/adventure... All the other MERP books require hours of work by the GM to be usable.
Palantir Quest is usable in a matter of minutes. It's written a little bit like the old Shadowrun adventure :
Stage 1 : Location X
- quick presentation for the GM of the events and of the background.
- what the players need to know
- how is set the location
- the NPCs involved ( and their stats )
- what are the supposed outcomes of the Stage and how to move to next stage.

and so on...