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knockcocker Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Jun 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #225 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 3:38pm	Print Post



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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #226 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 12:37pm: rapid reload doesn't work for heavy repeaters now?� fuuuuuuk.� I can't keep up with all the borken shit in this game. Rapid Reload has always worked for both kinds of repeaters (see Mr. Cow's or Monkey Archer's comprehensive and conclusive testing) and still does to my knowledge. I have not seen ANY new testing that suggests it no longer applies to Heavy Repeaters.

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Hiding Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1298 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #227 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	QuantumFX wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 12:44pm: Something I�m not seeing in this conversation: Keeping blitz going (And more importantly, fully stacked.) with a great crossbow, even while soloing as a mechanic, is a pain in the ass. That shouldn't be a problem now that blitz starts at 3 and GXBs fire faster than they used to. But if it is a problem, use IPS


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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #228 - Aug 13^th, 2015 at 2:25pm	Print Post
	Hiding wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 11:06pm: That shouldn't be a problem now that blitz starts at 3 and GXBs fire faster than they used to. But if it is a problem, use IPS Unless they fixed the RoF in U27, it�s still a problem. As of U26, in Servants of the Overlord, I was able to keep full blitz going with Needle while a L24 challenge great crossbow kept failing.


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Vindicator Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 109 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #229 - Aug 13^th, 2015 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	Furyshot + greatxbow + ips + vorpal(19-20) = win. I don't mess with blitz on my mech.


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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #230 - Aug 13^th, 2015 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	I m still running w tf heavy repeater on my mechanic, to quickly build full blitz stack, then switch to great xbow - I fthe stack goes low I switch back to repeater and so on


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #231 - Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:31pm	Print Post
	QuantumFX wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 12:44pm: Something I�m not seeing in this conversation: Keeping blitz going (And more importantly, fully stacked.) with a great crossbow, even while soloing as a mechanic, is a pain in the ass. So what you are saying is: gxbow does too much dps for your EN run. The only time you should have trouble keeping a blitz up on any build is if you are killing the mobs too quickly. (Then again, maybe you're doing it wrong.) Everyone in LD should be carrying a low DPS swappable weapon for those instances where blitz stacks are low, mobs are sparse, and cooldown reset is a long way off.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #232 - Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:33pm	Print Post
	Galadriel wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 10:22am: Is there any actually useful vorpal based effect besides the various bane damage vorpal effects, as well as a chance at insta-killing low hp targets which is not overly useful to begin with? My rubies of endless night are overperforming.

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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #233 - Aug 17^th, 2015 at 8:51pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:31pm: So what you are saying is: gxbow does too much dps for your EN run. If I�m going to do an EN/EH run, I'm switching to Shadowdancer or Crusader. What I�m saying is the GXB RoF wasn�t giving me a decent blitz in EE. 5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:31pm: The only time you should have trouble keeping a blitz up on any build is if you are killing the mobs too quickly. That definitely was not the case in the EE Servants of the Overlord I tried. 5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:31pm: (Then again, maybe you're doing it wrong.) Possibly. My test was the first encounter in Servants of the Overlord. Pop into quest. Make sure Improved Precise Shot is on. Start the show. Back out of the room and shoot at the raksasha until damage registers. Hit Blitz. Kill. Switch target to Drow Priestess. Kill everything. The Level 24 Cormeryian GXB left me with 3-4 stacks. Needle leaves me with full stacks. The GXB also took longer to clear the room. I started thinking that GXB/Blitz wasn�t gonna work for me after the 3rd attempt. 5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:31pm: Everyone in LD should be carrying a low DPS swappable weapon for those instances where blitz stacks are low, mobs are sparse, and cooldown reset is a long way off. That�s why I went with �How many stacks does it leave at the end of a fight?� That first fight has at least a half dozen mobs. If you have a better test, I�m willing to check it out in a couple weeks. (The character is a Wolf ATM.)


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DDOgirl Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2 Joined: Aug 19^th, 2015	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #234 - Aug 19^th, 2015 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	I usually play tosser but recently tried out a few repeater builds. The dps is nice and they are easier in heroics and low epics, but no contest end game tosser wins out. Its all about the gear set and build tho. If you dont have end game ie. mortal fear/crip flames a repeater build might be the way to go especially for a new player. I tried out both dread and shiradi and both were great for dps. I am personally a shiradi girl so would pick it over blitzing as personal preference.


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Billy the Id Ex Member	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #235 - Aug 19^th, 2015 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	DDOgirl wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 2:33pm: but no contest end game tosser wins out. Nah, not a chance. But it sounds like you're having fun, you should try Crusader with rotating GxB and repeater next time you have the chance. Even with crap gear the slaughter is extensive.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #236 - Aug 19^th, 2015 at 2:54pm	Print Post
	DDOgirl wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 2:33pm: I usually play tosser but recently tried out a few repeater builds. The dps is nice and they are easier in heroics and low epics, but no contest end game tosser wins out. Its all about the gear set and build tho. If you dont have end game ie. mortal fear/crip flames a repeater build might be the way to go especially for a new player. I tried out both dread and shiradi and both were great for dps. I am personally a shiradi girl so would pick it over blitzing as personal preference.� If you are playing EH, you probably do kill trash in shiradi with a thrower as fast as any other ED, because Helpless and Mortal fear and low HP values. In EE, the I would be very surprised if any tosser was killing things faster in Shiradi than LD or ShadowDancer.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #237 - Aug 20^th, 2015 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Having one now, yes, Mechs are strong. Not as strong as my Barb, imo, but then they can whizz around avoiding hits so... Wow, after 9 odd years I can finally play a Rogue and not hate every second of it. First character was a Rogue too, not had to wait long!


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GodOfWar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Aug 12^th, 2015	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #238 - Aug 20^th, 2015 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	14 Paladin and 5 Rogue + 1 filler (usually fighter or artificer) is obviously no brainer. Doing otherwise is just for gimps and noobs.
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Coasterhops Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 77 Location: West Coast, New Zealand Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Why Are Folks Shooting Their Wad Over Mechanics? Reply #239 - Aug 20^th, 2015 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	GodOfWar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 12:21pm: 14 Paladin and 5 Rogue + 1 filler (usually fighter or artificer) is obviously no brainer. Doing otherwise is just for gimps and noobs. This whole post seems somewhat contradictory, so there is easy button, 14Pal, 5Rog, 1Whatever or there are more challenging builds that only Gimps or Noobs should play?


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