I am disappoint.
https://www.ddo.com/en/store

im just going to save my TP for the +12s that will be here in a year or so im sure.

apparently bored wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 4:49pm:

Hahaha. thx, needed good laugh today.

Arkat wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:


Nah dude, you are not naive.

One would expect they  learn from lotro  and not fucking sell even more power creep but instead give it as some  incenbtive to run their  anhemic content... but nah, turbine.

yep seeing this cashbought demigods suck in game is priceless

Jelly_Muffin wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 6:29pm:



Sure  as hell game needs to make money. 

Thats why i like cosmetic stuff, has no real impact in gameplay  and the only downside i see its that the game may look a bit like  hello kity online.

Mirrors of glamering, glowing eyes,  pets... all that crap  does its job.

I am all in for more benefits to vips if that encourages subscriptions. I am premium and dont see a reason to go vip.
Opening on elite on 1st time? meh
10% base speed in town?  a joke
1 weekly free gold roll? yawn
10% extra xp? come one i  got  tomes from motu and shadowfell dont even need a sov or any fucking pot for that matter, xp is plenty.

There are more and better ways to milk the cow. Adding  +7s to the store just invalidates content.

Will  people continue to run eeTOEE? maybe, dunno really but the  selling point of that place, the one thing that made it bearable for the mases was a tiny tiny chance to get a +7. The crafted loot is not great  and the xp sucks.

Top tier crap should remain attainable only by playing, that move of them  kills the game a little more.


Man, i feel like that faggot of fran...

People who complain are the ones who farmed the shit out of ToEE the first few days it came out, when drop rates were ultra high.

I really dont give a shit if they released it in the store. Id rather buy a tome (which I will not do) than run ToEE one more fucking time.

Getting an EE raid done nowadays is a dream as well. Expecting a tome to drop is just non-sense.

Meursault wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 7:07am:


yep....and those who stay are those loaded with cash, buying their tomes and knowing shit anyway. crap

Shuy wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 7:46am:

Yeah, I largely agree with what you say, the tomes are a small example of a big problem, not a big problem themselves. And the alternatives suck donkey balls. That's why I'm sad, not outraged.

But I disagree with you on the new players bit. We get many new players trying the game, we just can't keep them. Look at how server populations get a huge bump when that server becomes the default server, and then how fast it decays to pre-default levels when the default is switched. And Turbine knows this, it was a big argument for why we needed the Enhancement Crash, and why they had to spend developer time shuffling deck chairs in The Harbor. And still they keep pulling crap like this.

There is a lot they should have thought out better when they proposed the level increase, one of which is tomes. OK, having content in place and ready to go would have been more important, but still, they shouldn't have bumped the max level before they had a solution in place for tomes. Make the favor reward tome a +5+ tome - you can use it at the level a normal +5 is usable at, but if your level goes up after that, you get more + as you reach the minimum level for that +. Like when you have a tome and TR, the + comes back in stages as you level up again.

Instead, we have all this crap with upgrade tomes and they drop here but not there and blah blah blah.

Grrrrr, Turbine 

Meursault wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 8:19am:


Exactly. I'm just not surprised, this was bound to happen sooner rather than later.

Meursault wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 8:19am:


I admit I don't hang out in the Harbor or in those levels so I might as well be wrong. Never noticed an influx of new players when the server becomes the default one.

Meursault wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 8:19am:


I think levels increase should have never happened. And Epic Destinies are one of the worst things that happened to this game, at least in the way they implemented them. I'd really love for them to not go to Level 30, it's going to be a total failure.

Epic levels are boring as fuck. Whenever I used to get a level in Heroic, I was always enthusiastic about it. I'd get more APs, a Feat, I can multiclass, I can choose skills, I can choose a stat. In the epic levels, you get a feat and that's fucking it. Some levels you literally click "accept" and you leveled up. Such wow.

Epic Destinies are just full out powercreep. Unbalanced, some abilities are too good, some abilities are shit, some EDs are complete garbage while others are absolutely OP.

What should happens with tomes imho: make +6, +7 upgrades droppable in any EE quest. Not just MoD, ToEE, Necro or DoJ. Make them drop at a reasonable rate and with really increased chance in EE DoJ. This wouldn't help much the endgame but it would be a start.

Arkat wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:


Only because you have been here quite a while. We watched this happen from the time +2 tomes were added till now.

Adding more and more tomes slowly over time is good not just for direct income, but also it presumably keeps the same maniacs playing to even out their stats again.

Some Guy Here On The Boards wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

The Epic Destinies don't bother me so much as the whole Epic Levels. I would have much rather seen them bulk out content in the upper levels MUCH more before they went there, and when they finally did, have them feel more like the heroic levels in the sense of picking things and getting some meaningful customization options. And the player base is already so spread out, increasing the number of levels just made that worse.

I guess having to buy EDs bugs me too (not personally, I bought them for myself, my family, and even my bank mule account) because it's yet another thing you really need to play the game so it increases the entry barrier for new players. It's one thing for Turdbin to make deceptive claims about how free the game is, but I'm not going to lie to my friends "Oh, come try it, it's free to play, but not really, you're going to have to buy this and this and this to actually play it." "Uh, thanks, man, maybe later."

I don't think the EQ1 model would have worked for DDO if they were intent on raising the level cap, 20 seems a natural boundary and holding destinies to 30 would have pissed off many of their customers. Maybe if they had kept it at 20 permanently the EQ1 model would work, I'm not sure what I think about that, I'll have to ponder it a while.