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Aug 13th, 2015 at 3:53pm
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Seriously... how godamn hard is it to fix the fucking chain reward for the new content? Didn't they have this same glitch with Orchard and TOEE? Geebus man. It's like somebody on staff said "Wait... we need to rile them up a little so they won't take us for granted, reintroduce glitch number 42 for the new content."

Was hoping this last patch would have addressed the oversight.. apparently not so much.
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 4:34pm
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Or maybe they are thinking "Release a massive horrible bug we can easily fix so they will complain a little, we can fix it, and they won't notice dozen moderate bugs we have released but can't fix"
  

Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Option 3: They forgot cause they don't give a fuck
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 7:33pm
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When all you do is copy and paste code from previous updates you tend to get the same bugs repeating themselves.  Who would have thought?
  
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Doggydaddy wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 3:53pm:
Seriously... how godamn hard is it to fix the fucking chain reward for the new content? Didn't they have this same glitch with Orchard and TOEE? Geebus man. It's like somebody on staff said "Wait... we need to rile them up a little so they won't take us for granted, reintroduce glitch number 42 for the new content."

Was hoping this last patch would have addressed the oversight.. apparently not so much.


Players are so demanding....
Look Doggy, they fixed the text on the Eternal Haste Pot - irrelevant stuff like the above can wait a few patches.
Jeez, it's all immediate gratification for you guys now!

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DropBear wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
Look Doggy, they fixed the text on the Eternal Haste Pot

They didn't. It was mistakenly added to the release notes.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 9:42pm
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Who says it's an oversight?

Maybe they saw the quests are dick easy and short and thought they would attempt to not trivialize handing out all the new loot to everyone the first hour of release?

But hey, maybe it was just an oversight...but I sure as shit wouldn't complain about it.
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Brodhi wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 9:42pm:
Who says it's an oversight?

Maybe they saw the quests are dick easy and short and thought they would attempt to not trivialize handing out all the new loot to everyone the first hour of release?

But hey, maybe it was just an oversight...but I sure as shit wouldn't complain about it.



Think you're missing the point. People are completing the chain on Epic, and getting lvl 10-12 Heroic end rewards
  
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ZooperDooper wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 9:57pm:
Think you're missing the point. People are completing the chain on Epic, and getting lvl 10-12 Heroic end rewards


Ok, that's valid if that's the complaint obviously. People on motherboards are actually complaining about lack of named chain reward...so that's what I thought was going on here. my ,mistake if not.
  
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Dickbutt wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 8:21pm:
They didn't. It was mistakenly added to the release notes.


Oh that is awesome.    Grin
  
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Dickbutt wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 8:21pm:
They didn't. It was mistakenly added to the release notes.



Jeezus... where's my epic double facepalm meme when I need it?
  
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ZooperDooper wrote on Aug 14th, 2015 at 12:51am:
Jeezus... where's my epic double facepalm meme when I need it?


Here you go

  
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Reply #12 - Aug 14th, 2015 at 11:33am
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So you're complaining you're getting heroic vendor trash instead of epic vendor trash as the chain reward. I mean it's something fun to complain about sure but that already happened day 1. It's over man forget about it.
  
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there's two important things to remember :
- The Loot Tables is like Klingon to the current crop of devs.
- They Do Not Want to mess with the loot table

the last time I raised the Issue of fixing the Great Ghostbanning of Loot in IRC ( by doing a rollback for all the wearable stuff ) the answer was :
It cannot be done...

Since I know as a fact that it's just a matter of editing all the loot tables to roll on the old loot properties table instead of rolling on the ghostbanned loot propterties table...
I call them liars.


So it doesn't surprise me that they just copy/paste loot tables from old code... that way they don't have to actually tinker with it, and risk.... reintroducing unghostbanned loot.

  

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Doggydaddy is in need of some epic vendor trash loot. What server you on? I'll fix you up with some plat and loot. Somebody else donating for a buddy?
  


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Flav wrote on Aug 14th, 2015 at 1:52pm:
there's two important things to remember :
- The Loot Tables is like Klingon to the current crop of devs.


No, there are hundreds of people who speak Klingon...
  

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DDOcrackhead wrote on Aug 14th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
Doggydaddy is in need of some epic vendor trash loot. What server you on? I'll fix you up with some plat and loot. Somebody else donating for a buddy?

I don't think that is the point.  I think the issue is that the end chain loot should match the quest level.  It's sloppy that it doesn't.  Not a major deal.  Unless they were giving away the named loot on 3rd run or something.  But it is a sign of sloppy coding that they are giving out level 13 loot on a level 30 chain reward.  And, *maybe* newer players, who weren't geared to the teeth, might appreciate the chance for something decent.
  
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Asheras wrote on Aug 14th, 2015 at 5:06pm:
I don't think that is the point.  I think the issue is that the end chain loot should match the quest level.  It's sloppy that it doesn't.  Not a major deal.  Unless they were giving away the named loot on 3rd run or something.  But it is a sign of sloppy coding that they are giving out level 13 loot on a level 30 chain reward.  And, *maybe* newer players, who weren't geared to the teeth, might appreciate the chance for something decent. 


Agreed.
Going Live with it shows there was no walk through testing (shock I know).
But it is an error, it looks poor and leaving it unfixed is very indicative of their approach to their work.
It doesn't matter how hard it is, if you're going to sell product it should fracking work.
We're NOT talking rocket science here - it's procedural coding.  It takes patience and knowledge, but even an average coder should be able to work their way through debugging ..... if they wanted to of course, because Turdbine has no KPI to fix your own fuckups.


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DropBear wrote on Aug 14th, 2015 at 7:08pm:
Agreed.
Going Live with it shows there was no walk through testing (shock I know).
But it is an error, it looks poor and leaving it unfixed is very indicative of their approach to their work.
It doesn't matter how hard it is, if you're going to sell product it should fracking work.
We're talking rocket science here - it's procedural coding.  It takes patience and knowledge, but even an average coder should be able to work their way through debugging ..... if they wanted to of course, because Turdbine has no KPI to fix your own fuckups.


Not all epic quests give epic end rewards. Not all chains even have rewards. So this is a non-issue as far as they are concerned. The obvious fix from their PoV would be to simply remove the reward...so they think they are doing us a favor by leaving it as is.
  

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Consider the fact that "old chains" used to give some named loot as end reward if completed 3 times just like it happened in IQ chain. They didn't even bother adding the same thing so if you're after that piece of gear that keeps on non dropping you'd better choose an alternative.

Now they're too busy thinking of how to FUBAR update 28 with epic shroud to give a fail that little consideration to not making a fail so it becomes an even greater fail. They must be so proud of themselves right now
  
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Artorias wrote on Aug 15th, 2015 at 8:35am:
Now they're too busy thinking of how to FUBAR update 28 with epic shroud to give a fail that little consideration to not making a fail so it becomes an even greater fail. They must be so proud of themselves right now

^This!

(Actually, I'm not sure what he said, but it sounds like he's condemning Turdbin's handling of this, so I'll hop on the bandwagon)
  

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Reply #22 - Aug 15th, 2015 at 12:11pm
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Meursault wrote on Aug 14th, 2015 at 4:50pm:
No, there are hundreds of people who speak Klingon...


Well, I was out of idea as which language to select, Klingon seemed cryptic enough...

There's more people that speaks Elven ( Mostly Sindarin, but some do speak Quenya ) so I had to choose a language...
After that I would have had to revert to Basque or Finnish... and there's way more people speacking each than people speking Klingon or Elven.

Artorias wrote on Aug 15th, 2015 at 8:35am:
Consider the fact that "old chains" used to give some named loot as end reward if completed 3 times just like it happened in IQ chain. They didn't even bother adding the same thing so if you're after that piece of gear that keeps on non dropping you'd better choose an alternative.


They want to kill static loot rewards on 3rd or 20th... They want to kill it HARD. It got rebuked last year by the PC, and let say that some people were grumy at how vehemently it was rebuked. I'm certain they are going to try to sneak it at some point ( they might have done it already ) through the 2015 council because they were really really keen to have that change.
  

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Reply #23 - Aug 15th, 2015 at 12:37pm
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Flav wrote on Aug 15th, 2015 at 12:11pm:
They want to kill static loot rewards on 3rd or 20th... They want to kill it HARD. It got rebuked last year by the PC, and let say that some people were grumy at how vehemently it was rebuked. I'm certain they are going to try to sneak it at some point ( they might have done it already ) through the 2015 council because they were really really keen to have that change.


Wow, if that's true, that's just... that would probably make me stop playing, guild or no guild.
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 15th, 2015 at 12:43pm
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hell, I guess that would be last straw for quite lot of people.

I guess next step will be slot machines for AS next to each raid entrance, where jackpot will be random named from raid.
  
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