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Unbearable Lagness of Gaming
Aug 18th, 2015 at 11:57pm
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Anyone else notice that since the last patch the lag has been like 10x worse? It used to just be in Defiler and Amrath pubic space.

Now we're lag wiping MoD on EN because the spikes are constant long lasting. We even lag wiped a HH EH earlier after I jumped in to help some guildies pull items.

  
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Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 12:01am
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It is basically unplayable lately. Can't run a quest with eldritch  aura unless you want to stare at a frozen screen. Even with it off, the server can't handle the strain at a global level.

If you are running with a warlock with Eldritch Aura, and he is using Blood and Radiance from Exalted Angel epic destiny, you are going to have a bad day.

Simple to reproduce, if Turbine doesn't fix it asap, not sure what to say...
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Reply #2 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 4:05am
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No way. They already said they couldn't reproduce the lag issue in their quest to break fix the game.

No im serious. It's really THAT hard to reproduce lag for them despite the fact that everyone else seems to get it as soon as they log in. Lag is our fault for not using uber computers with top notch connections and not playing from inside the turbine offices.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 4:40am
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Artorias wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 4:05am:
playing from inside the turbine offices.


Either that or in the data centre.........
Dev testing says, "What the hell are these idiot players complaining about?  I've got 12ms ping times and smooth game play?  Just whingers!" As he unplugs the cable from the server, sorry, sever.

And I noticed it today big time.
Solo in a quest and laggy as all hell.
Green connection, so low packet loss, but I was rubber banding all over the place.
Strangely the mobs had no problem moving and doing damage.   Angry
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 5:17am
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I think, they think that with a lower server population than prior years, stress testing should not be a priority.

With their general sloppy code one would emphasis it.

Then again, a lot of things  would be emphasised... *cough*QA*cough*

For simple, unstoppable lag, there are a few small counter measures you can use to remove/reduce it:
  • Play using 2 accounts (main and dummy) and when the massive lag spikes start, recall from the quest/raid using the dummy account. Not guaranteed to work but its a common pattern of one person recalling and the rest being fine during such spikes.
  • Don't play with people you know have really slow connections. Need citation on this but I believe the connection throttles the speed of everybody else to the slowest person. Had an incident where as soon as a member of our guild joined, we would lag because of his slow connection. They got a line upgrade and lag stopped unless it was server side.
  • Switch off combat log and change your effects display to display just numbers in the N+n+n+n format (does not help much but its something).


None of the above is 100% tested so its just basic observations and speculation. If it works, great, if it doesn't, I'm sorry for getting your hopes up.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 5:18am
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There was a major lag all over the place 5 hours ago or so.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 5:44am
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DropBear wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 4:40am:
Either that or in the data centre.........
Dev testing says, "What the hell are these idiot players complaining about?  I've got 12ms ping times and smooth game play?  Just whingers!" As he unplugs the cable from the server, sorry, sever.

And I noticed it today big time.
Solo in a quest and laggy as all hell.
Green connection, so low packet loss, but I was rubber banding all over the place.
Strangely the mobs had no problem moving and doing damage.   Angry


Reminds me of an experiment I did a few days ago. Logged in with my lap top N53S and managed to lag wipe on heroic normal. I can play other mmorpgs (cabal online, rift, requiem bloodymare, you name it) without EVER lagging. I can even play online using steam without problems. Only DDO seems to have the crippling lag. I really hope moving the data center in september will at least reduce the lag since it's getting really ridiculous ........
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:13am
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Artorias wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 5:44am:
moving the data center in september


It's moving again? Wasn't it moved in April or whenever the heck it was?
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Reply #8 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:31am
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Galadriel wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:13am:
It's moving again? Wasn't it moved in April or whenever the heck it was?


No it was announced that they were going to move to a new datacenter during the year in April.

Since moving a datacenter from one location to another is something I've been part some 9 years ago... I can tell that it's not something easy... especially if you have to do it as seamlessly as possible for the end users. ( as in limited downtime and no major changes in how things are done )

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Reply #9 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 9:20am
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Flav wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:31am:
No it was announced that they were going to move to a new datacenter during the year in April.

Since moving a datacenter from one location to another is something I've been part some 9 years ago... I can tell that it's not something easy... especially if you have to do it as seamlessly as possible for the end users. ( as in limited downtime and no major changes in how things are done )




LOTRO is going in Sept?
Are they doing it at the same time, or separate projects?
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 9:23am
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They did move the billing servers or something else already. They haven't moved the game servers yet.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 9:42am
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Arkat wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 9:23am:
They did move the billing servers or something else already. They haven't moved the game servers yet.


That was the recent move to the best of my knowledge. Below is what I was referring to.

Flav wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:31am:
No it was announced that they were going to move to a new datacenter during the year in April.


That clears up my confusion. Thanks Flav  Kiss
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 10:13am
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Lag last night was awful.  We almost wiped in an EN MoD due to it.  It if wasn't for that handy Jack Jibbers Blade to get the divines up, we would have had to restart.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 10:53am
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Lag was occurring in Eveningstar too.  It would take minutes to walk across from Mail to Fatespinner.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 11:30am
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Asheras wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 10:13am:
Lag last night was awful.  We almost wiped in an EN MoD due to it.  It if wasn't for that handy Jack Jibbers Blade to get the divines up, we would have had to restart. 


That was epic
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 11:47am
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Who Knows wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 11:34am:
Pretty sure I didn't die  Cheesy

Might of been DC'ed for half the raid, but STILL.


I totally thought you rage quit. Was not expecting you to reconnect.

I really need one of those jibbers blades now. It led to a really impressive circle rez jerk
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 1:30pm
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Didn't think JJ's blade worked in raids.  Learned something new today.
  

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Reply #17 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 1:34pm
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harharharhar wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 11:30am:
That was epic


Were you in that run?
  
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Who Knows wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 11:34am:
Pretty sure I didn't die  Cheesy

Might of been DC'ed for half the raid, but STILL.


If it's the run I'm thinking of and you had the star, yeah.  You didn't die.  You DC'd and then came back.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:11pm
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New massive lag spike on Argo. The shocking news is that it happened before a raid while party was still forming.

It's good when this kind of thing happens before the point of non return when you think on your wasted time.
  
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Reply #20 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:22pm
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I just had to logged off since I couldn't move in marketplace :S and it's not turdbine's fault, we all have shitty connections
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 5:30pm
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harharharhar wrote on Aug 18th, 2015 at 11:57pm:
Anyone else notice that since the last patch the lag has been like 10x worse? It used to just be in Defiler and Amrath pubic space.

Now we're lag wiping MoD on EN because the spikes are constant long lasting. We even lag wiped a HH EH earlier after I jumped in to help some guildies pull items.



What a crybaby. No wonder you called yourself a Vag.
  

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Reply #22 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 6:22pm
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We got the worst lag spikes today.
Like 5 mins w/o be able to move.

Just noticed the hotfux warning in the launcher....

If you fucking morons need to do some shit in the fucking servers turn this shit down.

But don' t do it while ppl are trying to fucking play you bunch of retarded clowns.
  

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Reply #23 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 10:05pm
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Bigdickrichguy wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
What a crybaby. No wonder you called yourself a Vag.


Big dick swing.... and a miss.
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 19th, 2015 at 10:13pm
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Who Knows wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
Big dick swing.... and a miss.


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