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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:02pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/466257-Changes-to-Tomes?p=5700402#post... Quote: Good evening! Changes are coming to Tomes in the upcoming patch, which will also result in some price changes to reflect the improved functionality... As of 28.1, all Stat tomes and Skill tomes will now be able to be used below level, and the stat increase will apply the appropriate amount as you level (this is similar behavior to what players already experience after performing a true reincarnation with a character that has consumed a stat tome). This change is not retroactive and will only affect newly dropped/purchased tomes. So a character who loots a tome or gets a tome from the Store after patch 1 will be able to activate the tome immediately, and the game will apply the bonus as you reach each of the required levels (e.g. for a +1 bonus to ability scores you need to reach level 3, for a +2 bonus, you need to reach level 7, for a +3 bonus you need to reach level 11, and so on). Tome pricing has been increased to account for the improvement, and will be as follows starting with Update 28.1 (to summarize the below lists: a 50 point price difference). Basic Stat Tomes Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 - 355 - 395 2 - 595 - 645 3 - 895 - 945 4 - 1195 - 1245 5 - 1395 - 1445 6 - 1595 - 1645 7 - 1795 - 1845 Supreme Stat Tomes Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 - 1495 - 1545 2 - 2495 - 2545 3 - 3495 - 3545 4 - 4495 - 4545 5 - 4795 - 4845 6 - 5095 - 5145 7 - 5395 - 5445 Upgrade Stat Tomes Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 to 2 - 295 - 345 2 to 3 - 495 - 545 3 to 4 - 795 - 845 4 to 5 - 895 - 945 5 to 6 - 995 - 1045 6 to 7 - 1095 - 1145 Supreme Upgrade Stat Tomes Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 to 2 - 1295 - 1345 2 to 3 - 1995 - 2045 3 to 4 - 2995 - 3045 4 to 5 - 2995 - 3045 5 to 6 - 3995 - 4045 6 to 7 - 4295 - 4345 Skill non UMD Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 - 195 - 245 2 - 295 - 345 3 - 495 - 545 4 - 695 - 745 5 - 895 - 945 non UMD 6 stack Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 - 895 - 945 2 - 995 - 1045 3 - 1795 - 1845 4 - 2495 - 2545 5 - 2995 - 3045 UMD skill tomes Bonus - Old Price - New Price 1 - 695 - 745 2 - 895 - 945 3 - 1195 - 1245 4 - 1495 - 1545 5 - 1995 - 2045 quality of life improvement? lets charge moar! such a turbine thing to do. "hey, we made something work like it is supposed to, so we charged you more for it!" they all need to fucking die in a fire.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #1 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:02pm: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/466257-Changes-to-Tomes?p=5700402#post... quality of life improvement? lets charge moar! such a turbine thing to do. "hey, we made something work like it is supposed to, so we charged you more for it!" they all need to fucking die in a fire. That is weak AF. The prices should be going down, not up. Tome values have deteriorated as power creep has entered the game.


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Mr Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 361 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2011	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #2 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	If they ever fix all the bugs in this game (cough, laugh) I am sure that I will be unable to afford to play it at this rate. I mean, such a minor change causing an increase in already expensive tomes, come on... wtf! OK turdbin just fix the lag, then we can talk about price increases.


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Skoodge LORD OF BOOBS Offline Whatever Posts: 3702 Location: Why? You want to visit me? Joined: Jul 19^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #3 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:18pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:09pm: That is weak AF.� The prices should be going down, not up. Actually the TP prices of items should stay exactly the same, but they should have lowered the purchase prices of TPs about two years ago. Keep TP right where they were so the p4f players aren't affected, but give people willing to fund the game more they can do with the money they spend. At this point it really doesn't matter, but if they'd dropped prices two years ago (or even a year ago), people would have been more inclined to buy TPs if you could do more with them in the game. I swear sometimes I can't decide if they're actually that incompetent or if they just want the game to fail.

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #4 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:02pm: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/466257-Changes-to-Tomes?p=5700402#post... quality of life improvement? lets charge moar! such a turbine thing to do. "hey, we made something work like it is supposed to, so we charged you more for it!" they all need to fucking die in a fire. You're cdbd3rd? I had no idea.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #5 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:19pm: You're cdbd3rd? I had no idea. u wot m8?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #6 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Really really sad. A new low.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #7 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	New! Ladders have been fixed! Ladder pricing has been increased to account for the improvement, and will be as follows starting with Update 28.2 (to summarize: 50 points per ladder you climb).

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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #8 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	But just think of how much more you'll be saving when they go on sale!

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #9 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Oh, this has the potential to get ugly. Are they going to add a way to see what tome you have if you are below level? How about art work, will the new and old tomes look identical on the Auction House? I love the thought that the tomes will finally work like they do in a TR, but WTF, make it retroactive to prevent screwing people over. They've already proven they can do it, the only thing lacking is sufficient regard for their customers' pain to bother doing so.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #10 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:58pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:58pm: New! Ladders have been fixed! Ladder pricing has been increased to account for the improvement, and will be as follows starting with Update 28.2 (to summarize: 50 points per ladder you climb). Thanks for the ladder fix idea. We are soon going to see little farshifter npcs who charge shards every time there should have been a ladder. VoN5 now with "improved functionality..."

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Turd_Ferguson Waterworks Kobold Offline It's a funny name. Posts: 174 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #11 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:13pm	Print Post
	The Dev team at Turdbin are a bunch of fuckwits. Their main source of "quality" advice comes from some of the biggest fucking idiots in the game.
	« Last Edit: Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:13pm by Turd_Ferguson »

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3482 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #12 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:37am	Print Post
	What the Actual Fuck? Are they for real? Geez..


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Athanor Waterworks Kobold Offline Carpe Diem! Posts: 112 Location: Xixon Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #13 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 4:43am	Print Post
	This had something to do with the resuing tome expl*it? /tinfoil off

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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #14 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 5:06am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:09pm: That is weak AF.� The prices should be going down, not up.� Tome values have deteriorated as power creep has entered the game.� Yeah this. More excellent work on pleasing players and aiding retention...


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #15 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 6:16am	Print Post
	Long time ago, convinced Turbine they were pushers and the customers are just a bunch of skeevy addicts. Ever since, they've been trying to add "bad" to a game that was previously just broken.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #16 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 8:48am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 6:16am: Long time ago, http://www.ddovault.com/Images/Fernando3.png convinced Turbine they were pushers and the customers are just a bunch of skeevy addicts. Ever since, they've been trying to add "bad" to a game that was previously just broken. Yeah, they'd light us on fire, film it, and post it on Face Book if they thought they could get away with it

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Bigdickrichguy Horoluth Raider Offline I'm gunna put my dick<br />in your vag.<br /> Posts: 2096 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2013	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #17 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	Pay Moar to Win!


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #18 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	�I watched DDO die. I was there. And I watched it die. I watched it overperform and lag to death. I could have saved it. But I didn�t.�

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Zandos Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 145 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2014	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #19 - Oct 9^th, 2015 at 11:34pm	Print Post
	Now that there's lot of noobs who say 'omfg devs so awesome fix i luv u and i cummed my pants!' those dumb devs will add bugs to game, so they can later add features allowing people to mitigate those bugs to ddo store. Example: they can reduce buyback to items from your last login, and claim it reduces lag, and then make bug that will randomly delete item from your inventory, but don't worry, for 200TP per, there will be acces to expanded buyback list with items that were sold or destroyed in last month. Shit, those devs are probly lurking here, so I maybe shouldn't post here, but meh, whatever.


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #20 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 4:52am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 5:15pm: �I watched DDO die. I was there. And I watched it die. I watched it overperform and lag to death. I could have saved it. But I didn�t.�

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klajsdhd Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 165 Joined: Dec 18^th, 2013	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #21 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 9:30am	Print Post
	My guess the reason for the change is mainly due to how wide spread tome trading was available ~ at least 2 - 3 months. Specifically unbound tomes could be traded, and used without actually consuming the tome itself. As a result, all my characters have +6 tomes, for the price of 0 turbine points.


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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #22 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Oct 9^th, 2015 at 6:16am: Long time ago, http://www.ddovault.com/Images/Fernando3.png convinced Turbine they were pushers and the customers are just a bunch of skeevy addicts. The fucked up part is that they succeeded.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4346 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #23 - Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:39pm	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 4:52am: image I've not seen this picture before, I hope someone actually stopped and saved that kid. edit. google searched the image, humans suck.
	« Last Edit: Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:41pm by Munkenmo »
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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Turbine Needs $$, So They Fix Tomes & Charge More Reply #24 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:50am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:39pm: I've not seen this picture before, I hope someone actually stopped and saved that kid. It would have been too late, anyway, by some accounts. BUT. The photo (and the Pulitzer it won) certainly brought attention to the situation in Sudan. Now everything in East Africa is A-OK!

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