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Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:02pm
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Good evening! Changes are coming to Tomes in the upcoming patch, which will also result in some price changes to reflect the improved functionality...

As of 28.1, all Stat tomes and Skill tomes will now be able to be used below level, and the stat increase will apply the appropriate amount as you level (this is similar behavior to what players already experience after performing a true reincarnation with a character that has consumed a stat tome). This change is not retroactive and will only affect newly dropped/purchased tomes. So a character who loots a tome or gets a tome from the Store after patch 1 will be able to activate the tome immediately, and the game will apply the bonus as you reach each of the required levels (e.g. for a +1 bonus to ability scores you need to reach level 3, for a +2 bonus, you need to reach level 7, for a +3 bonus you need to reach level 11, and so on).

Tome pricing has been increased to account for the improvement, and will be as follows starting with Update 28.1 (to summarize the below lists: a 50 point price difference).

Basic Stat Tomes      
Bonus      - Old Price - New Price
1 - 355 - 395
2 - 595 - 645
3 - 895 - 945
4 - 1195 - 1245
5 - 1395 - 1445
6 - 1595 - 1645
7 - 1795 - 1845

Supreme Stat Tomes      
Bonus      - Old Price - New Price
1 - 1495 - 1545
2 - 2495 - 2545
3 - 3495 - 3545
4 - 4495 - 4545
5 - 4795 - 4845
6 - 5095 - 5145
7 - 5395 - 5445

Upgrade Stat Tomes      
Bonus - Old Price - New Price

1 to 2 - 295 - 345
2 to 3 - 495 - 545
3 to 4 - 795 - 845
4 to 5 - 895 - 945
5 to 6 - 995 - 1045
6 to 7 - 1095 - 1145

Supreme Upgrade Stat Tomes
Bonus      - Old Price - New Price

1 to 2 - 1295 - 1345
2 to 3 - 1995 - 2045
3 to 4 - 2995 - 3045
4 to 5 - 2995 - 3045
5 to 6 - 3995 - 4045
6 to 7 - 4295 - 4345

Skill non UMD
Bonus - Old Price - New Price
1 - 195 - 245
2 - 295 - 345
3 - 495 - 545
4 - 695 - 745
5 - 895 - 945

non UMD 6 stack
Bonus - Old Price - New Price
1 - 895 - 945
2 - 995 - 1045
3 - 1795 - 1845
4 - 2495 - 2545
5 - 2995 - 3045

UMD skill tomes
Bonus      - Old Price - New Price
1 - 695 - 745
2 - 895 - 945
3 - 1195 - 1245
4 - 1495 - 1545
5 - 1995 - 2045



quality of life improvement? lets charge moar! such a turbine thing to do. "hey, we made something work like it is supposed to, so we charged you more for it!" they all need to fucking die in a fire.
  

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Reply #1 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:09pm
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quality of life improvement? lets charge moar! such a turbine thing to do. "hey, we made something work like it is supposed to, so we charged you more for it!" they all need to fucking die in a fire.


That is weak AF.  The prices should be going down, not up.  Tome values have deteriorated as power creep has entered the game. 
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:49pm
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If they ever fix all the bugs in this game (cough, laugh) I am sure that I will be unable to afford to play it at this rate.  I mean, such a minor change causing an increase in already expensive tomes, come on... wtf!

OK turdbin just fix the lag, then we can talk about price increases.
  

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Reply #3 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:18pm
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Asheras wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
That is weak AF.  The prices should be going down, not up.


Actually the TP prices of items should stay exactly the same, but they should have lowered the purchase prices of TPs about two years ago.  Keep TP right where they were so the p4f players aren't affected, but give people willing to fund the game more they can do with the money they spend.  At this point it really doesn't matter, but if they'd dropped prices two years ago (or even a year ago), people would have been more inclined to buy TPs if you could do more with them in the game. 

I swear sometimes I can't decide if they're actually that incompetent or if they just want the game to fail.
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:19pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:02pm:
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quality of life improvement? lets charge moar! such a turbine thing to do. "hey, we made something work like it is supposed to, so we charged you more for it!" they all need to fucking die in a fire.

You're cdbd3rd?

I had no idea.
  

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Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:27pm
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You're cdbd3rd?

I had no idea.

u wot m8?
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #6 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:10pm
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Really really sad.  A new low.  Undecided
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:58pm
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New! Ladders have been fixed!

Ladder pricing has been increased to account for the improvement, and will be as follows starting with Update 28.2 (to summarize: 50 points per ladder you climb).
  

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Reply #8 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:15pm
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But just think of how much more you'll be saving when they go on sale!
  

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Reply #9 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:17pm
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Oh, this has the potential to get ugly. Are they going to add a way to see what tome you have if you are below level? How about art work, will the new and old tomes look identical on the Auction House?

I love the thought that the tomes will finally work like they do in a TR, but WTF, make it retroactive to prevent screwing people over. They've already proven they can do it, the only thing lacking is sufficient regard for their customers' pain to bother doing so.
  

Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Reply #10 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:58pm
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Revaulting wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:58pm:
New! Ladders have been fixed!

Ladder pricing has been increased to account for the improvement, and will be as follows starting with Update 28.2 (to summarize: 50 points per ladder you climb).


Thanks for the ladder fix idea. We are soon going to see little farshifter npcs who charge shards every time there should have been a ladder. VoN5 now with "improved functionality..."
  

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Reply #11 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 9:13pm
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The Dev team at Turdbin are a bunch of fuckwits.

Their main source of "quality" advice comes from some of the biggest fucking idiots in the game.
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Reply #12 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 12:37am
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What the Actual Fuck?

Are they for real? Geez..
  

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Reply #13 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 4:43am
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This had something to do with the resuing tome expl*it?

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Reply #14 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 5:06am
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Asheras wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
That is weak AF.  The prices should be going down, not up.  Tome values have deteriorated as power creep has entered the game. 

Yeah this. More excellent work on pleasing players and aiding retention...
  
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Reply #15 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16am
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Long time ago, convinced Turbine they were pushers and the customers are just a bunch of skeevy addicts. Ever since, they've been trying to add "bad" to a game that was previously just broken.
  

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Revaulting wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16am:
Long time ago, http://www.ddovault.com/Images/Fernando3.png convinced Turbine they were pushers and the customers are just a bunch of skeevy addicts. Ever since, they've been trying to add "bad" to a game that was previously just broken.

Yeah, they'd light us on fire,  film it, and post it on Face Book if they thought they could get away with it  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #17 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 2:27pm
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Pay Moar to Win!

  

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Reply #18 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 5:15pm
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“I watched DDO die. I was there. And I watched it die. I watched it overperform and lag to death. I could have saved it. But I didn’t.”
  

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Reply #19 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 11:34pm
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Now that there's lot of noobs who say 'omfg devs so awesome fix i luv u and i cummed my pants!' those dumb devs will add bugs to game, so they can later add features allowing people to mitigate those bugs to ddo store.
Example:
they can reduce buyback to items from your last login, and claim it reduces lag, and then make bug that will randomly delete item from your inventory, but don't worry, for 200TP per, there will be acces to expanded buyback list with items that were sold or destroyed in last month.

Shit, those devs are probly lurking here, so I maybe shouldn't post here, but meh, whatever.
  
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Reply #20 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:52am
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Revaulting wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 5:15pm:
“I watched DDO die. I was there. And I watched it die. I watched it overperform and lag to death. I could have saved it. But I didn’t.”


  

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Reply #21 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 9:30am
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My guess the reason for the change is mainly due to how wide spread tome trading was available ~ at least 2 - 3 months.

Specifically unbound tomes could be traded, and used without actually consuming the tome itself.

As a result, all my characters have +6 tomes, for the price of 0 turbine points.
  
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Revaulting wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16am:
Long time ago, http://www.ddovault.com/Images/Fernando3.png convinced Turbine they were pushers and the customers are just a bunch of skeevy addicts.



The fucked up part is that they succeeded.
  
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Reply #23 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:39pm
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Starkjade wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:52am:
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I've not seen this picture before, I hope someone actually stopped and saved that kid.

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Reply #24 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:50am
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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:39pm:
I've not seen this picture before, I hope someone actually stopped and saved that kid.


It would have been too late, anyway, by some accounts.

BUT.  The photo (and the Pulitzer it won) certainly brought attention to the situation in Sudan.  Now everything in East Africa is A-OK!
  

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