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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #100 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:26am: 18 rogue mech and shiradi largely unaffected. besides not like we weren't steam rolling shit pre u24 anyway. I dont mind the nerfs if they are this broad. but anyone like harhar who thinks this will bring back no eyes closed no roflstomping is wrong. shit makes no difference to me what update you bring me back to 18 Rogue Mech is losing big. Doubleshot decrease of what was essentially a 3x coefficient in front of whatever your final value is. Still OP, now just less so. If your doubleshot was consistently over 40 or 50, you're looking at close to a 30% top line DPS hit for repeater mechs. 1 Shot = 100 3 shot Volley = 300 50% Doubleshot pre-Nerf = 150 Total 450 Post Nerf: 3 shot Volley = 300 50% Doubleshot = 50 Total 350 @50% Doubleshot, this change is a 22.2% damage loss. Significant. I think Repaer will fuck most people up a lot of the time. EE will still continue to be a joke, if it's already a complete joke for you and your friends now. The differences om Necro 4 EE recently slowed me down in a full party. I solo'd a side of Vol while the other 5 did the other side. Instead of literally holding down attack and cycling through attacks, I was constantly having to use Cocoon, like everytime off cooldown and some heal scrolls. It was a SIGNIFICANT change from before. Things died much more slowly. If they nerf Mortal Fear, and give things Deathward (level drain) Reaper will be every bit as difficult as old Epics, I predict.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #101 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	FranOhmsford wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 12:10pm: And my personal favourite Feat - Augment Summoning If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #102 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 1:02pm: Your crit range should be 17-20.� 20 for base weapon, 19 for IC, 18 for swash enhance, 17 for DC celestial champion.� The exploit weakness will continue to add +1 until you crit.� Your crit multiplier should be x4.� How did your light pick dwarf swash lose crit power? Improved Critical currently doubles the effect of Swash enhancement bonus, Celestial Champion bonus, and Exploit Weakness insight bonus. So I am at 15-20x4. Post patch, going down to 17-20x4. Pre-patch, each stack of Exploit Weakness gave +2 (+1 doubled by improved crit). Post-patch as written, this will no longer be the case. Unless using Rapier or Kukri, swashbucklers are among the biggest losers of the patch.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #103 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	crunch wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 3:16pm: Improved Critical currently doubles the effect of Swash enhancement bonus, Celestial Champion bonus, and Exploit Weakness insight bonus. So I am at 15-20x4. Post patch, going down to 17-20x4. Pre-patch, each stack of Exploit Weakness gave +2 (+1 doubled by improved crit). Post-patch as written, this will no longer be the case. Unless using Rapier or Kukri, swashbucklers are among the biggest losers of the patch. Why is no one talking about qstaves?

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #104 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	crunch wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 3:16pm: Improved Critical currently doubles the effect of Swash enhancement bonus, Celestial Champion bonus, and Exploit Weakness insight bonus. So I am at 15-20x4. Post patch, going down to 17-20x4. Pre-patch, each stack of Exploit Weakness gave +2 (+1 doubled by improved crit). Post-patch as written, this will no longer be the case. Unless using Rapier or Kukri, swashbucklers are among the biggest losers of the patch. None of that was WAI. I guess you can consider that a "nerf". But to me, that's like finding a vending machine that drops two candy bars for every one you pay for due to a defect. And then when the owner fixes it complaining that they "raised the prices".


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #105 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:03pm: Hurray for many rule changes all at once. that always works out well. for exploiters that is.

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #106 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:41pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:49pm: If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college. was that YOU working those Tiajuana shows? and I thought that was a donkey.

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Forest Ex Member	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #107 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:44pm: 18 Rogue Mech is losing big. Doubleshot decrease of what was essentially a 3x coefficient in front of whatever your final value is. Still OP, now just less so. If your doubleshot was consistently over 40 or 50, you're looking at close to a 30% top line DPS hit for repeater mechs. 1 Shot = 100 3 shot Volley = 300 50% Doubleshot pre-Nerf = 150 Total 450 Post Nerf: 3 shot Volley = 300 50% Doubleshot = 50 Total 350 @50% Doubleshot, this change is a 22.2% damage loss. Significant. Could we get one of your fabled 'screenshots' of this.....
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Tilo Ex Member	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #108 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Did they say anything about how unarmed/druid shapeshifting IC feat was going to work? Do druids/trees gain critical profile based on what is equipped? This ... uh ... might actually be a buff.


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #109 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: Could we get one of your fabled 'screenshots' of this..... what's more likely? getting a screenie from him or a vid from 5foot?

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #110 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 6:21pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:56pm: what's more likely? getting a screenie from him or a vid from 5foot? Well said my Cabal brother. Just beating SandyVag to the punch.�
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #111 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:41pm: was that YOU working those Tiajuana shows?� and I thought that was a donkey.� What, a donkey wouldn't work in Tijuana?

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #112 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 8:11pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:44pm: 18 Rogue Mech is losing big. Doubleshot decrease of what was essentially a 3x coefficient in front of whatever your final value is. only is using repeaters. gxbow loses 10% alacrity. harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:44pm: The differences om Necro 4 EE recently slowed me down in a full party. I solo'd a side of Vol while the other 5 did the other side. Instead of literally holding down attack and cycling through attacks, I was constantly having to use Cocoon, like everytime off cooldown and some heal scrolls. heal scrolls?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #113 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 2:49pm: If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college. Golf Clap


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Vaultaccount Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 624 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #114 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:09pm	Print Post
	Fran, get help, seriously. Or fuck you. If I knew where you live I'd literally pay a gay dude to rape you. How can you be so retarded? I wonder if all this shit you say makes sense in your head.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #115 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	Quote: Could we get one of your fabled 'screenshots' of this..... Um, I thought you knew how to do math. It's pretty simple really. Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 8:11pm: only is using repeaters. gxbow loses 10% alacrity. Thought it was obvious since I was running the numbers for repeaters, but I suppose it could have been unclear, but only for a moron. You are correct, GxBs are unaffected by the Doubleshot changes, but are losing some alacrity (not a lot). Rubbinns wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 8:11pm: heal scrolls? Yeah you know the things you pop when cocoon is on cooldown and you're taking damage?


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #116 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 5:56pm: what's more likely? getting a screenie from him or a vid from 5foot? I post screen-grabs all the time, that's the joke you fucking mongrel


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #117 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:33pm	Print Post
	Grand wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 6:21pm: Well said my Cabal brother. Just beating SandyVag to the punch.� you mean beating off to my posts? of course you did you little slut


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #118 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 10:18pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:32pm: you fucking mongrel harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:33pm: you little slut Somebody is getting their feelings hurtz. We'll look after you in Sunshine & Fairy Farts.

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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #119 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 10:18pm: Somebody is getting their feelings hurtz. We'll look after you in Sunshine & Fairy Farts. Poor Dump-stat, how easy is it to rattle his cage? and the way he sets himself up for it day in and day out, priceless.


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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #120 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 1:35am	Print Post
	So if I understand this correctly: The devs couldn't figure out how to fix all the broken crit buffs they implemented, so they're simply nerfing every weapon type from orbit so fuck you and your hard won eSoS. Whiners on be mobos who got their panties in a bunch back in the day over their broken Monkcher/FotM builds being invalidated by PRR/ MRR finally managed to get the MRR removed, thus ensuring that every viable build will once again be wearing pyjamas or disarming traps. Fuck you, Fully Upgraded Shadow Dragonplate wearers. All Paladins will now be THF. Mechanics and archers will no longer be Paladins. Archers, Arties and Throwers can eat a bag of dicks. Your caster still blows dead bears for quarters, and gives change. Fighters will get new must have feats, and will still envy your caster's awesome power. Wolf Druids are still broken as fuck. Trees are still large plants. Rangers got to sit at the Adults Table for� minute, then got sent to their room without an explanation. Swashbucklers got their knees skinned, but that's OK cuz chicks dig scars. Did I miss anything?

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Vendui Releaser Of Exploits Offline Dare to tempt your fates? Everything has a price. Posts: 2492 Location: Central WI Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #121 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 1:54am	Print Post
	Metal-Beast wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 1:35am: So if I understand this correctly: The devs couldn't figure out how to fix all the broken crit buffs they implemented, so they're simply nerfing every weapon type from orbit so fuck you and your hard won eSoS. Whiners on be mobos who got their panties in a bunch back in the day over their broken Monkcher/FotM builds being invalidated by PRR/ MRR finally managed to get the MRR removed, thus ensuring that every viable build will once again be wearing pyjamas or disarming traps. Fuck you, Fully Upgraded Shadow Dragonplate wearers. All Paladins will now be THF. Mechanics and archers will no longer be Paladins. Archers, Arties and Throwers can eat a bag of dicks. Your caster still blows dead bears for quarters, and gives change. Fighters will get new must have feats, and will still envy your caster's awesome power. Wolf Druids are still broken as fuck. Trees are still large plants. Rangers got to sit at the Adults Table for� minute, then got sent to their room without an explanation. Swashbucklers got their knees skinned, but that's OK cuz chicks dig scars. Did I miss anything? How exactly are they nerfing all weapons? the crit range applying x2 was not WAI with various enhancment/feat combos, and was said as much. Nothing is changing, other than the way the IC feat functioned multiplicative with other range increasing variables. Very few weapons are receiving a "nerf" Esos/sos being one of them due to its irregular increased threat range over its counterpart greatswords. I see no problem with this, cry moar not really, this ties into the way crit range was improperly working, again cry moar


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #122 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 2:04am	Print Post
	Quote: Could we get one of your fabled 'screenshots' of this..... http://sockdrawer.com/pages/sock-sizes-explained-finally

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #123 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 5:11am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:29pm: You are correct, I know. harharharhar wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:29pm: Yeah you know the things you pop when cocoon is on cooldown and you're taking damage? Never had that problem before. What's it like?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Incoming nerfs listed Reply #124 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 5:12am	Print Post
	Vaultaccount wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 9:09pm: If I knew where you live I'd literally pay a gay dude to rape you.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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