Justanotherlurker wrote on Oct 17 th, 2015 at 7:53pm: It was a nerf to any expanded crit range that were doubled by IC Crit - Enhancements/holy sword/ED abilities/weapons with expanded ranges - that covers most melee some worse than others (poor Sireth Wielding Acrobats in DC ) Sireth - 18-20. +1 from DC Celestial Champion, +3 Sly Flourish (rogue), +1 Staff Spec (Rogue) = 20-18=2*2=4+1=5+1+1+3=10: 10-20 crit range when using the attack Sly Flourish, 20-18=2*2=4+1=5+1+1=7: 13-20 when not using it (Is how it SHOULD work) However it currently does this: 20-18=2+1+1+3=7*2=14+1=15: 5-20 Crit range when using Sly Flourish, 20-18=2+1+1=4*2=8+1=9: 11-20 crit range on every other attack. Again, it was not a NERF it was a FIX.. IC (or as you stupidly call it: Improved Crit Crit [IC Crit]) applied after all other enhancments/spells/abilities, which was not working as intended. It caused many things to apply twice when they should have only applied once. Bards Exploit weakness for example offered a +1 to crit range on non-crits. A 19-20 weapon, with IC stood at 17-20. With Exploit weakness stack 1 (+1 range) the weapon went from 17-20, to 15-20, rather than 16-20 like it should have. This was a BUG, therefor the "nerf" to IC, was only a fix. If you are incapable of understanding that, there be no hope for you. IC applied multitivly, rather than additively which caused this bug. By instead taking the "doubles" and giving it an integer, it removed the bug. +3 to weapons that origianlly went from 18-20 to 15-20, +2 to weapons that went from 19-20 to 17-20, and +1 for weapons that went from 20 to 19-20. Improved Crit, for the most part, still applies exactly the same as it always did. No nerf there save for these weapons: ---> Bastard Swords Drow Bastard Sword of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d10]+6, 18-20/x2
---> Battleaxes Not Affected by the fix to Improved Crit
---> Daggers Drow Dagger of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d4]+6, 18-20/x2 Nightforge Stiletto [ML 8] - 1.5[1d4]+5, 18-20/x2
---> Darts Nightforge Spike [ML 8] - 1.5[1d4]+5, 18-20/x3
---> Dwarven Axes Duergar Waraxe of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d10]+6, 19-20/x3
---> Falchions Not Affected by the fix to Improved Crit
---> Great Axes Carnifex [ML 4] - [1d12]+2, 19-20/x3, Keen Drow Greataxe of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d12]+6, 19-20/x3
---> Great Clubs Bonesplitter (weapon) [ML 18] - [1d10]+5, 19-20/x2, Impact, Blunt Trauma Shining Devastation [ML 14] - 1.5[1d16]+5, 19-20/x3
---> Great Swords Epic Sword of Shadow [ML 20] - 2.5[2d6]+10, 18-20/x3 Sword of Shadow [ML 10] - [2d6]+5, 18-20/x3 Whirlwind [ML 10] - 1.5[2d6]+5, 18-20/x2
---> Handaxes Not Affected by the fix to Improved Crit
---> Heavy Crossbows Not Affected by the fix to Improved Crit
---> Heavy Maces Phosphor [ML 14] - 1.5[2d4]+5, 18-20/x2 Forgotten Light [ML 23 -> 25] - 2.5[1d8]+6, 19-20/x2 -> 2.5[1d8]+7, 19-20/x2
---> Heavy Picks Deathnip [ML 14] - 1.5[1d6]+5, 19-20/x4
---> Kamas Forester's Brush Hook [ML 15 -> 24] - 1.5[1d6]+4, 19-20/x3 -> 3[1d6]+7, 19-20/x3
---> Khopeshes Drow Khopesh of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d8]+6, 18-20/x3
---> Light Crossbows Ratcatcher [ML 8] - 1.5[1d8]+4, 18-20/x3
---> Light Maces Drow Light Mace of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d6]+6, 19-20/x2
---> Longbows Bow of Sinew [ML 14] - [1d8]+5, 19-20/x3, Elasticity Epic Bow of the Elements (Air) [ML 20] - 2[1d8]+6, 19-20/x3 Epic Thornlord [ML 20] - 2[1d8+2]+8, 19-20/x3 Pinion, Cloud-piercer [ML 23] - 2.5[2d6]+7, 19-20/x3 -> 2.5[2d6]+8, 19-20/x3 Silver Longbow [ML 8] - [1d10]+3, 19-20/x3 Unwavering Ardency [ML 14] - 2[1d12]+3, 19-20/x3
---> Longswords Watcher's Blade [ML 16] - [1d8]+5, 19-20/x3
---> Mauls Drow Maul of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d10]+6, 19-20/x3 ---> Morningstars Braisingstar [ML 25] - 2.5[2d6]+7, 19-20/x2 -> 2.5[2d6]+8, 19-20/x2 Coronation [ML 14] - 1.5[2d4]+5, 19-20/x3 Star of Irian [ML 8] - 1.5[1d8]+4, 19-20/x2
---> Quarterstaves Bone Crusher [ML 18] - Quarterstaff 2[1d10] 19-20x2 Breeze [ML 14] - [1d10]+5, 19-20/x2 Chieftain's Spear [ML 4] - [1d8]+2, 19-20/x2 Drow Quarterstaff of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d6]+6, 19-20/x2 Epic Bone Crusher [ML 26] - Quarterstaff 2.5[1d10] 18-20x2 Epic Luminous Truth [ML 20] - 2[1d6]+6, 19-20/x2 Epic Souleater [ML 20] - 2[1d6]+6, 19-20/x2 Epic Staff of Nat Gann [ML 20] - 2[2d6]+6, 19-20/x2 Luminous Truth [ML 16] - [1d6]+4, 19-20/x2 Mythic Bone Crusher [ML 26] - Quarterstaff 2.5[1d10] 18-20x2 Sireth, Spear of the Sky [ML 23] - 2.5[1d10]+7, 18-20/x2 -> 3[1d10]+8, 18-20/x2 Stave of the Seer [ML 8] - 1.5[2d6]+4, 19-20/x2 Theurgic Stave [ML 8] - 1.5[2d4]+4, 19-20/x2
---> Rapiers Drow Rapier of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d6]+6, 17-20/x2 Mutineer's Blade [ML24] - 2 [1d6] +7, 17-20 / x2
---> Repeating Light Crossbows Not Affected by the fix to Improved Crit
---> Scimitars Drow Scimitar of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d6]+6, 17-20/x2 Epic Mirage [ML 20] - 2[1d6]+6, 17-20/x2
---> Shortbows Epic Collapsible Shortbow [ML 20] - 2[1d6]+6, 19-20/x3
---> Shortswords Cutthroat's Smallblade [ML 12 -> 16] - [1d6]+3, 18-20/x2 -> [1d6]+5, 18-20/x2 Drow Shortsword of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d6]+6, 18-20/x2 Epic Cutthroat's Smallblade [ML 20] - 2[1d6]+5, 18-20/x2 -> 2[1d6]+6, 18-20/x2 Luck Blade [ML 8] - [1d7]+2, 18-20/x2 Razorend [ML 14] - 1.5[1d8]+5, 18-20/x2, Keen Rebellion [ML 25] - 2.5[1d8]+7, 18-20/x2 -> 2.5[1d8]+8, 18-20/x2 Tiefling Assassin's Blade [ML 4] - [1d6]+2, 18-20/x2, Keen Treason (weapon) [ML 14] - [1d6]+5, 18-20/x2
---> Shurikens Snowstar [ML 8] - 1.5[1d4]+4, 18-20/x2
---> Sickles Death's Touch [ML 18] - [1d7]+5, 19-20/x2 Devourer's Reaping [ML 24] - 2.50 [1d6] + 7, 19-20/x2 Sickle of Sypheros [ML 6] - 1.5[1d6]+3, 19-20/x2 Tharkuul's Bane [ML 10] - 1.25[2d4]+5, 19-20/x2 Widowblight [ML 10] - 1.5[1d6]+3, 19-20/x2
---> Warhammers Drow Warhammer of the Weapon Master [ML 21] - 3[1d8]+6, 19-20/x3 Mornh, Hammer of the Mountains [ML 23] - 2.5[1d10]+7, 19-20/x3 -> 3[1d10]+8, 19-20/x3
These are just the ones listed http://ddowiki.com/page/Threat_range there could be a few more (looks like its updated to at least 3bc update. not sure past that, dont care either) These weapons will be affected in some way by the fix to Improved Crit.
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