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yardarm Ex Member	Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Oct 19^th, 2015 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/466542-LAMANNIA-FEEDBACK-Balance-Pass/... Severlin posted Quote: Some followup. We've done some follow up testing and it looks like Two Weapon Paladins are somewhat behind where we want them to be for DPS. They are running equal with Two Handed builds and Vanguard builds, but they are obviously behind the AoE of two handed fighting and the extra mitigation of a shield. We will be adding Holy Sword back to non-shield off hand builds. With the fix to improved critical the DPS difference that provides should put them where we want them for DPS. Sev~


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 2:08pm	Print Post
	Set the bar too far, then move it back to where you really wanted it in the first place.

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Athanor Waterworks Kobold Offline Carpe Diem! Posts: 112 Location: Xixon Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 2:23pm	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 2:08pm: Set the bar too far, then move it back to where you really wanted it in the first place. No, that will mean they are intelligent beings

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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:15pm	Print Post
	So now the nerf to Holy Sword isn't anything directly having to do with Holy Sword at all? Am I correct now that the only 'nerf' to Holy Sword is that it doesn't get doubled by improved crit/keen/impact now?

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LordHumungus Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 150 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm	Print Post
	So now the only ones getting buttfucked and losing holy sword are S+B Vanguards? Bastards.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:48pm	Print Post
	LordHumungus wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm: So now the only ones getting buttfucked and losing holy sword are S+B Vanguards? Bastards. Yup. Assholes.

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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	LordHumungus wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm: So now the only ones getting buttfucked and losing holy sword are S+B Vanguards? Bastards. Missed the S&B not getting rolled back. Vanguards definitely needed a nerf though, what with them dominating the kill counts and such. Trying to decide whether or not to TR right now...leaning no as god only knows what's actually going to go live.

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LordHumungus Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 150 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #7 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:50pm: Missed the S&B not getting rolled back. Vanguards definitely needed a nerf though, what with them dominating the kill counts and such.� Trying to decide whether or not to TR right now...leaning no as god only knows what's actually going to go live. Yeah mine is totally dominating the EE kill counts. Definitely not TRing now. Not doing anything drastic until the hotfix the week after this steaming puddle of grume goes live.


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #8 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	LordHumungus wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:34pm: So now the only ones getting buttfucked and losing holy sword are S+B Vanguards? Bastards. I can I can tell you why: There is no S+B fanatic on the mobos that posts a hunderd whiny threats about how his vanguard is going to suck now. Turbine does not respond to suggestions or feedback but to massive hyperbole! "Powered by our fans" gets a whole new meaning. And it looks like it takes a moron to teach a moron: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/466542-LAMANNIA-FEEDBACK-Balance-Pass/...
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #9 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Maybe that's because no melee is going to suck, even if they would halved the melee power and prr right the fuck now.


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Vaultaccount Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 624 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #10 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 9:20pm	Print Post
	And why not give it for shield builds? Unless they think S&B are OP DPS?


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #11 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 10:51pm	Print Post
	I have never seen a Vangaurd/S+B win in a kill count. What the fuck is about?


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LordHumungus Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 150 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #12 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 10:51pm: I have never seen a Vangaurd/S+B win in a kill count. What the fuck is about? Meh, I can beat some puggles with mine, but no one worth mentioning.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #13 - Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:57pm	Print Post
	LordHumungus wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:16pm: Meh, I can beat some puggles with mine, but no one worth mentioning. Same.

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Galadriel DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 419 Location: Middle Earth Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #14 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:36am	Print Post
	Don't have a Vanguard but I can't recall a single time when I felt Vanguard was OP at all when compared to other builds of the same level. Only time I've seen a Vanguard ever really lead the kill count was during an epic TR quest spree with said Vanguard being level 28 and the rest of the group under 25.


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Vendui Releaser Of Exploits Offline Dare to tempt your fates? Everything has a price. Posts: 2492 Location: Central WI Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ironclan and Devilyouknow win. Reply #15 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:47am	Print Post
	LordHumungus wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:16pm: Meh, I can beat some puggles with mine, but no one worth mentioning. Vaultaccount wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 9:20pm: And why not give it for shield builds? Unless they think S&B are OP DPS? There was this guy on Orien who did nothing but shield bash in the brawl pit (i know, its not really a good dps factoring place) but he could shield bash for 2-3k before the procs/additional dmgs, that was just base dmg/non-furied


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