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Typical non-answer response.  Thread then goes on to discuss.  Mainly, should a maxxed DC caster have 95% success rate in EE on their core school?

My opinion is that cool downs and mana act as deterrents to DC casters dominating content, especially Enchantment casters, who still need help killing shit.  The Necro/Insta-Kill Caster is a slightly different animal, due to their ability to one shot stuff. 

Some folks were saying a 50% success rate on a high fort mob vs. FoD in EE, for example, for a maxxed player.  To me, that's too low.  Again, given Mana and Cool Downs, I'd want to see this:

Entry Toon/Non-DC caster
Mob's Saving Throw:      EN      EH     EE
Low Save                       95%   70%   45%
Medium Save                  80%   50%   25%
High Save                       70%   40%   10%


Average Toon/DC Caster
Mob's Saving Throw:      EN      EH     EE
Low Save                       95%   90%   80%
Medium Save                  95%   80%   65%
High Save                       85%   70%   50%


Maxxed DC Caster
Mob's Saving Throw:      EN      EH     EE
Low Save                       95%   95%   90%
Medium Save                  95%   95%   80%
High Save                       95%   95%   70%

what's the highest necro DC possible with cookies, bards, ship buffs, Yugo pots, max INT etc etc.  I say start with that at 95% (because cookies and Yugo pots aren't permanent) and work down from there.

Rubbinns wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:


I've really made it now on the Vault, someone has accused me of being someone else!  Thanks! 

seriously though if it's mid 90s, and the EE fort saves are mid 90s what's the problem?

painkiller wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:


Do you not know how saves work?   Serious question as I have the same doubts with the developers.

With how the game is not casters even with no fail DCs are shit compared to melees.   Stuff needs to change.

That comment from Cordovan made my blood boil, such asshattery.

Mr Reilly wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:23pm:


that seems about what I see in game.

Mr Reilly wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:23pm:

joy proc beats the piss out of almost every build anyhow.

Revaulting wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

I know one guy in my guild bought them by the hundreds, but he doesn't really play any-more as all he really likes is DC casters, and, well, you know about DC casters 

Revaulting wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

I think they once posted a list of top store items, both recurring and one time (packs, races, classes, etc) and mana pots were top 5 on the recurring items list.  Right up there with Rez cakes. 

I recall there was some really stupid stuff on that list that nobody should be spending money on.

Asheras wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

spending money on this game is retarded. youre keeping incompetent devs, cordovan, piaz siblings, and blatant cash rapes going so you can keep playing a game from 2006 that 85% of people stopped playing 4 years ago.

For trash 100% is too low with 50 SP cost and long ass cooldown. Meanwhile even the below-average melee and ranged players are outkilling the epitome DC caster AND get to contribute to the redname fights.

Rubbinns wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 12:58am:


Meh.  It's still a fun game.  And cheaper than a lot of my other vices.

Asheras wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:21am:


Hasn't that always been the cornerstone of the DC vs DPS comparison? DC contributes to making trash killing faster and more trivial while DPS makes boss fights faster. The "Jack of all trades master of none" ideal comes to mind here for any form of middle ground.