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Derpderpin Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 101 Joined: Sep 16^th, 2015	Epic Shroud Ing Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:56am	Print Post
	any info on epic shroud if ingredients, if any will be bound to character/account. would be nice if they were unbound like the regular ingredients.


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TheFifthSock Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 265 Location: The Rusty Nail Joined: Sep 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #1 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:16am	Print Post
	I didn't see anything specific mentioned yet. It will soon(tm) be up on Lamaland though (maybe this week), but no raid for the first iteration... have to wait a bit.


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Derpderpin Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 101 Joined: Sep 16^th, 2015	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #2 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 8:15am	Print Post
	awesome thx, just want to know if leveling spare toons to 28 just to grind/run epic shroud is worth the effort.


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #3 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:21am	Print Post
	Just wait to dupe them like everybody.

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #4 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:28am	Print Post
	I mistakenly read the title as 'Epic Shroud lag'. I wonder if it will take as long to fix as the regular Shroud lag, however long that will be.


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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #5 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:46am	Print Post
	The way they been going with ingredients, they will probably be btc. With maybe the very basic starter stuff for them bta or tradeable.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #6 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:09pm	Print Post
	I am going to be so very very disapointed if Legendary Greensteel is ML30.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #7 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	If they are sticking with previous greensteel methodologies (Which would be a very good idea, considering the popularity of that system) the base item mats will be BTC and come from the flagging quests. Crafting Mats will come from the flaggers and the raid and be Unbound, with specific BTC items from the raid as well. The combination of BTC and unbound items makes for a strong replay-ability. You need runs on all your characters, but also, one character can grind out mats for the others, to some degree. It is a system that supports: 1) People who want to run lots of toons 2) People who want to run one toon to get mats for other toons 3) People who want to grind mats to sell/trade This is also seen in TF, where the mats are unbound for base items and 2 tiers and then BTC for tier 3 mats or ToEE where the base items and some combination of unbound and BTA mats are used for the higher tiers. The only tweak I would recommend to the old GS system is that we do not need 4 tiers of mats with 6 mats per tier. That's 24 distinct mats. I prefer systems with fewer mats. Just require larger quantities of them for higher tiers. Or have just have 2 or 3 mats per tier. The number of different mats in ToEE and TF were fine. No more than 4-8 total ingredients.


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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #8 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:09pm: I am going to be so very very disapointed in Legendary Greensteel. FTFY

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #9 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	From the Motherboard: "Legendary Shroud won't use the same flagging nor quest structure as Heroic. There won't be a Legendary Coalescence Chamber etc. There are new quests coming." Which sounds nice. Not that I'd mind Epic Coal but if they make an epic version of that damn spider quest I will personally fly to turbine headquarters and shit all over every surface I can squat on.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #10 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:53pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:49pm: From the Motherboard: "Legendary Shroud won't use the same flagging nor quest structure as Heroic. There won't be a Legendary Coalescence Chamber etc. There are new quests coming." Which sounds nice. Not that I'd mind Epic Coal but if they make an epic version of that damn spider quest I will personally fly to turbine headquarters and shit all over every surface I can squat on. More spider quests, please.


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #11 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:11pm: If they are sticking with previous greensteel methodologies (Which would be a very good idea, considering the popularity of that system) the base item mats will be BTC and come from the flagging quests.� Crafting Mats will come from the flaggers and the raid and be Unbound, with specific BTC items from the raid as well.� The combination of BTC and unbound items makes for a strong replay-ability.� You need runs on all your characters, but also, one character can grind out mats for the others, to some degree.� It is a system that supports: 1)� People who want to run lots of toons 2)� People who want to run one toon to get mats for other toons 3)� People who want to grind mats to sell/trade This is also seen in TF, where the mats are unbound for base items and 2 tiers and then BTC for tier 3 mats or ToEE where the base items and some combination of unbound and BTA mats are used for the higher tiers. The only tweak I would recommend to the old GS system is that we do not need 4 tiers of mats with 6 mats per tier.� That's 24 distinct mats.� I prefer systems with fewer mats.� Just require larger quantities of them for higher tiers.� Or have just have 2 or 3 mats per tier.� The number of different mats in ToEE and TF were fine.� No more than 4-8 total ingredients.� � Couldn't agree with you more, here's hoping.


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #12 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:53pm: More spider quests, please. Well played.


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Bones Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 598 Joined: Feb 7^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #13 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:09pm: I am going to be so very very disapointed if Legendary Greensteel is ML30. I wouldn't be too optimistic. We all know what they've decided that "Legendary" should mean. And they have started using that word. Quote: In Update 29, the Vale is getting spruced up with "Legendary" content in addition to its standard Heroic content (including *Legendary Greensteel). The price of the adveSnip!* Now, that could just be Camel Toelero being clueless and tossing that word around, or they've already made their decision at this point... (I say that, like as if there was ever a chance that the "Players voices" could be heard, first.)�
	« Last Edit: Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:09pm by Bones »

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #14 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:09pm	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:00pm: I wouldn't be too optimistic. Realistically I will probably keep playing DDO, but if Legendary Greensteel is ML30 I'll never see the inside of the epic shroud. No point. Sometimes I feel like the developers are working on 2 seperate games and are entirely unaware of each other. On the one hand, you have this FANTASTIC, AMAZING, INCREDIBLY REPLAYABLE TR system. It has its flaws, sure, but it's a unique element that effectively turns the entire game into the end game. Since the actual power increase between each new life is miniscule, a lot of the power comes from twinking out your character, farming for powerful gear and then using it next life. And, for me(and I feel a lot of people) that's a big element of what makes the game so much fun. Then on the flip side you have a bunch of devs sharting out cap gear like there's no tomorrow, like this is world of warcraft and all the levels up to cap are only getting played once. Then they give the gear such low drop rates that by the time you grind it out you're so sick of playing that you don't even care. What are they thinking?

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Bones Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 598 Joined: Feb 7^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #15 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:09pm: On the one hand, you have this FANTASTIC, AMAZING, INCREDIBLY REPLAYABLE TR system. It has its flaws, sure, but it's a unique element that effectively turns the entire game into the end game. Indeed. Most definitely the only thing that has kept me going for so long... ML 20, 22, whatever Epic Greensteel would definitely equate to "funner" ER-ing for me. (Not easier. it's already easier than breathing.)
	« Last Edit: Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:15pm by Bones »

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #16 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	After they changed the ransack mechanics TRing has never been hard. It was tough for a while there when you had to grind a TON of XP out of a very few quests that each gave progressively less. Once that fix was made its no big deal at all. And it was never challenging from a "this game is hard" standpoint, it was more of a "ok, how do I balance out holding levels, running opts, and squeezing all the XP out so I don't end up 20k from cap with everything ransacked" Logistics, not gameplay. And yea, now TRing isn't hard, its just a question of fun. I found my last ETR to be extremely boring because I was tired of my build and not getting any of the new gear I was going after(oh god, the drop rates). I may ETR more if I find a build I'm not bored of by cap and theres some more exciting gear. I think my main issue right now is my I have so little equipment I actually get to use/change out!!

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1205 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #17 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 8:36pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:49pm: From the Motherboard: "Legendary Shroud won't use the same flagging nor quest structure as Heroic. There won't be a Legendary Coalescence Chamber etc. There are new quests coming." Which sounds nice. Not that I'd mind Epic Coal but if they make an epic version of that damn spider quest I will personally fly to turbine headquarters and shit all over every surface I can squat on. In Epic Coal.. the only spell EVERYTHING casts is Grease LAWLZ


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #18 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 8:51pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:49pm: Which sounds nice. Not that I'd mind Epic Coal but if they make an epic version of that damn spider quest I will personally fly to turbine headquarters and shit all over every surface I can squat on. If you do, we'll call it Epic Coal. Not sure they could arrest you for anything, either. Turbine offices are already an epic coal chamber.

	Silence is golden, but I only get silver rolls.
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RemRemi Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #19 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:39pm	Print Post
	Word on Lamma from a couple of the PC members was that all but the lowest tier ingredients will be BTC. Coco wouldn't even address it. So much for using all your toons to farm for one.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #20 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:03pm	Print Post
	RemRemi wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:39pm: Word on Lamma from a couple of the PC members was that all but the lowest tier ingredients will be BTC. Just wait til the heroic ings crumble, to be replaced with spooky, temporary ings.

	Silence is golden, but I only get silver rolls.
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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #21 - Nov 20^th, 2015 at 12:13am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:03pm: Just wait til the heroic ings crumble, to be replaced with spooky, temporary ings. The Panic� begins...

	I Got Nothin'.
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LordHumungus Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 150 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #22 - Nov 20^th, 2015 at 6:55am	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:00pm: Camel Toelero Found her


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PersonaNonGrata Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1063 Joined: May 3^rd, 2015	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #23 - Nov 20^th, 2015 at 7:55am	Print Post
	LordHumungus wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 6:55am: Found her http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/LordHumungus/12239969_640327929442419_886... Wtf is that? Is that a shart?


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Epic Shroud Ing Reply #24 - Nov 20^th, 2015 at 7:57am	Print Post
	PersonaNonGrata wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 7:55am: Wtf is that? Is that a shart? I think there is something in there that is trying to get out.


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