U29 loot, The Feather Awakens
please join me in laughing my ass off

Artorias wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:41pm:


That's a nice idea, but without focusing on absolutely nothing but new content, totallly naive and impossible. The devs make a hard crazy puzzle. It takes them a long time to create and release. What happens next?

Someone figures it out. Someone then figures out how to do it faster. Then there's a video, a walkthrough, and DDOWiki has the map.

Over, done, not a challenge, and if it takes extra time to do the puzzles, then people don't run it unless there's a loot carrot.

So, no matter, some combination of challenge from mobs, loot that's hard to get, and balance among quests for those two things has to be achieved, or else everyone zergs the fastest quest for XP, or just plays the one over and over again with the good piece of loot until they get it.

This was less of an issue when random loot could drop raid equivalent items, albeit extremely rarely. Mysterious remnants is actually, in my mind, the making of an EXCELLENT system whereby they need to massively increase the number of things you can buy with them, and fashion it into a full fledged crafting system. This alone would keep people running content at level (any level) to get good unique loot and buffs.

Technomage wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:53pm:



LOL 

Thanks! just about the kinda of gutless dodge I expected from you, so glad to see the training worked, now roll over and sit fido.

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Regular Gnomes won't fly because traditional Gnomes are +2 con.  And they want to do a casting stat race.  That means Svirfneblin. 

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Svirfneblin I get the reasoning but I hope we don't have purple gnomes running around all over the place.

Rubbinns wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 6:36pm:

Was wondering that the other day myself.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:37pm:


They should explore the concept of randomness for variability.
I've read some good suggestions in old threads.

Randomise quests as much as is practical.
This could include, but not be limited too:
1. Paths - some doors perma locked and others not, depending on instance. Have more than a few combos, so it is not easily learnable.
2. Traps - location, effect and DC.
3. Mobs - location, quantum and abilities.
4. Boss location and abilities.
5. Boss AI - have the boss have different scripts as they did in Night Revels.  Each instance had the bosses exhibiting different behaviours/spells to a limited extent.

More work - sure a little, but less than a whole new quest and the replayability is better, so the content should last longer.

I'd love to see them develop 3D traps that come from the floor and ceiling too, but I think that would take a lot more work unfortunately.

Bones wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 5:39pm:


That' s a really long term plan.

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 2:32am:



Well, my Static Group ( playing since 2006, flowersniffing, gimps, quests once on normal and playing 2/3 hours a week. ) has barely reached LVL 23.
So I can clearly envision somebody with 16 toons that hasn't started Epic after 3 years of gaming... Though that's more the exception to the rule.

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:53am:

I think it just shows how many different segments of the player base there is.  Most players on this forum, and even the MoBo, only represent a small minority of the player base and are pretty homogeneous. 

Rubbinns wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 6:36pm:


They do that so they can say Lamm was open.  Closing it after a couple of hours just gives players no time to test and comment.  Then it goes live broken.

InBones wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:36pm:


These Devs have fallen into what I like to calI "Ninja Gaiden Douchebaggery."

They can't add challenge by creating new Mob AI or difficult terrain or interesting plot/ quest mechanics, so they just give every trash monster all the "bullshit asshole" abilities and keep punching the players where it hurts.

Every melee has 120 STR and 1 Rogue level for Fort  bypass, with 10 bazillion HP.
Every caster has Quicken, Maximize, Greater Dispel, Distinegrate, Searing Light, Enervation/ Energy Drain, Horrid Wilting.
All have grossly inflated CR and saves.
All (or almost all) have Deathblock, or effects that prevent instant kills.

And of course, to really bring the Dick Punch, they appear 100 at a time for immediate Red Dungeon Alert.

That's not "challenge." That's just fucking lazy design. Swamp 'em with trash, hit save and compile, grab a coffee and head down to Pac-Man LARP.

Also, Sverfneblin before Duergar is fucking bullshit. 

I am pro- Tiefling however. 

EDIT: I forgot all the caster mobs have infinite Spell Points as well. 

Wipe wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:27am:


Producing content at the rate players can burn through it is literally an impossible demand