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MF definitely being nerfed
Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:34pm
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Just a heads up in case anyone thought about making one.  Good to know that months of grind is now worthless. That's not rage inducing at all  Sad

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Our earlier decision on Mortal Fear still stands: The half-health proc portion of it will not function in Legendary content. We had debated whether to reduce the ability's power throughout both Epic and Legendary content, or take the action we ultimately decided on, but feel it is better to allow the benefit to be used as it currently is, in all of the places it currently works.
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm
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Is it really a nerf if the only content it won't work in didn't exist previously?

Also this reminds me a lot of my vacuum II greensteel weapons when epics were released.
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:58pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
Just a heads up in case anyone thought about making one.  Good to know that minutes of duping is now worthless. That's not rage inducing at all  Sad



FTFY

Also, you didn't grind for legendary content, few months ago we didn't know it would even exist.  MF still works .
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:07pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Is it really a nerf if the only content it won't work in didn't exist previously?

Also this reminds me a lot of my vacuum II greensteel weapons when epics were released.



Perfect example, they introduced the bullshit DC and mine got parked in the bank forever.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:38pm
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Not a surprise at all
  

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The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means.

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Reply #5 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 8:29pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Is it really a nerf if the only content it won't work in didn't exist previously?


I dunno.

Legendary content is supposed to be anything 31+, right?  We've had lvl 31 quests starting with EE Orchard.  IF I'm wrong, please tell me, if "Legendary" is just quests that are BASE 31+, but I haven't heard that yet.
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:03pm
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Yes lvl 31+ quests. But those quests are harder because the morons have to set up all mobs. And everybody knows Turdbine job, it's a piece of shit.
  

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Reply #7 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:03pm
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The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means.

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Reply #8 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:05pm
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Starkjade wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 8:29pm:
Legendary content is supposed to be anything 31+, right?


Not like I'm in the know, but I thought legendary would be to epics, what epics are to heroics.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:10pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:57pm:
Is it really a nerf if the only content it won't work in didn't exist previously?

Also this reminds me a lot of my vacuum II greensteel weapons when epics were released.


So anytime they introduce new content it's okay if they introduce immunities that completely invalidate previous gear?  Seems like a semantics argument that's missing the point....
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:14pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:10pm:
So anytime they introduce new content it's okay if they introduce immunities that completely invalidate previous gear?


I'm not saying it's ok, I'm just questioning if it's a nerf, or even if it's unexpected.

It's certainly one of the very few consistencies with Turbine.
  

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Reply #11 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:20pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:05pm:
Not like I'm in the know, but I thought legendary would be to epics, what epics are to heroics.


Yeah, that's my understanding as well, but we already have a whole slew of content that is one or two levels into the "legendary" cut-off point of 31+.

I suppose there is precedent for having overlap, Amrath elites were lvl 21 when the cap was 20, and not truly considered epic (even though they dropped the occasional token fragment, way back when.)
  

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Reply #12 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:54pm
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Legendary content is content with a base level of 31 on norm.  Not content that is level 31 when run on hard or elite.  No pre U29 content is legendary.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:58pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:54pm:
Legendary content is content with a base level of 31 on norm.  Not content that is level 31 when run on hard or elite.  No pre U29 content is legendary.



Source, please?

(Not that I don't believe you, just want "official" word.)
  

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Reply #14 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:52pm
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Ok.. everyone who's screaming *NERF!*

STFU.

The new tier of quests is supposed to be 'new frontier'.. so new rules. You spend all this time and energy screaming and bitching.. but you never bothered to stop and wonder... "hmmm.. with the new crafting, epic GS, Sentient Weapons... its entirely possible something NEW may be coming that compares to MF like a nice blow-job compares to a clammy handshake."

For once I would like to see a little less immaturity and a little more 'wait-n-see'
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Reply #15 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 11:39pm
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ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:52pm:
Ok.. everyone who's screaming *NERF!*

STFU.

The new tier of quests is supposed to be 'new frontier'.. so new rules. You spend all this time and energy screaming and bitching.. but you never bothered to stop and wonder... "hmmm.. with the new crafting, epic GS, Sentient Weapons... its entirely possible something NEW may be coming that compares to MF like a nice blow-job compares to a clammy handshake."

For once I would like to see a little less immaturity and a little more 'wait-n-see'

New stuff that requires another month of grind?  Awesome, can't wait!
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 11:48pm
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ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:52pm:
'wait-n-see'

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Reply #17 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:04am
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Starkjade wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:58pm:
Source, please?

(Not that I don't believe you, just want "official" word.)

Official word was from cordovan in the ddocast dev round table last week, as I recall.  Might have been from sev and cordovan on ddo players new but I don't think so.
  
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Reply #18 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:29am
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ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:52pm:
Ok.. everyone who's screaming *NERF!*

STFU.

The new tier of quests is supposed to be 'new frontier'.. so new rules. You spend all this time and energy screaming and bitching.. but you never bothered to stop and wonder... "hmmm.. with the new crafting, epic GS, Sentient Weapons... its entirely possible something NEW may be coming that compares to MF like a nice blow-job compares to a clammy handshake."

For once I would like to see a little less immaturity and a little more 'wait-n-see'


Sorry Severlin.
You're right, let's see what you the troops can whip up for us.
You've restored our faith Prod.
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Reply #19 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 1:26am
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PersonaNonGrata wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:29am:
Sorry Severlin.
You're right, let's see what you the troops can whip up for us.
You've restored our faith Prod.
(Sarcasm off)



My point being, MF works exactly as it has, in all the quests it was working in. Stop bitching if new quests pop up it wont work in.. if its that important.. stick to the older quests it still works in, or wait & see if something bigger & better comes up.

Just between you, me, & the fence post.. some of these lvl 30 updates look pretty freakin' sweet...  Grin
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 1:34am
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ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 1:26am:
wait & see if something bigger & better comes up.

ofc it will. how else will they sell you new updates? wanna bet what happens after sales of those updates drop off?
  

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Reply #21 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:05am
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Starkjade wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:58pm:
Source, please?

(Not that I don't believe you, just want "official" word.)

http://ddowiki.com/page/Legendary
  
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Reply #22 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 11:03am
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Cheesy
  

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Reply #23 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:48pm
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Cuntovan closed another thread on this. 

Imagine how pissed people would be if they'd actually have earned their ingredients.
  
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Reply #24 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:51pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
Imagine how pissed people would be if they'd actually have earned their ingredients.


Bigjunk wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
if they'd actually have earned their ingredients.


Bigjunk wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
actually have earned their ingredients.


Bigjunk wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
earned their ingredients.

  
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