Wipe wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:52pm:

no, but there wasnt a reason to have alts since every thing was bound and epic trs. why waste time when you could make your 1 toon miles better

Wipe wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

While I'm glad to hear the community is more supportive and understanding than they've been in the past, I've recently heard complaints, from people I know well in real life, about how frustrating and humiliating it is to be "that player" who can't kill anything and dies when nobody else does.

Even if people are kind about it and offer to let the poor gimp pike, it's still bad for the game. Most people play these games to be a hero, not a charity case, and being stuck as the latter through a long grind causes a lot of people to just give up.

I don't mean to downplay the importance of your observation, a supportive community can go a long way towards covering for the incompetence of the game designers. But I think the really powerful stuff you have to be a whale or an insane power gamer to get in less than half a year is bad for the game in the long run and it sounds like what we have here.

And maybe the "random lootgen" and Cannith Crafting passes will address this by bringing random loot and crafted loot to the 60-80% power range so the power and grind of this won't be an issue, it's still too early to call doom. However, Turdbin's past performance does leave me, ah, concerned, as to how this will play out.

PersonaNonGrata wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:45pm:


Agreed, I think this is why Crystal Cove Crafting was so popular. For a little grind you got a decent item, for a chunk more a very nice item, and for a ton more an excellent item that was that extra +1 better. And people did indeed grind for that extra +1, but they saw progress the whole way and you could run in a group with a mix of items and the tier 3 would outperform the tier 1, but not by a huge margin, enough to notice but not enough to demoralize. And you could grind that single tier 3 item in a weekend or two.

And you could get it for your gimp alts, and if all you had was gimp characters you could group with just a friend or two and still get it. It wasn't as good as raid gear, but it was close enough that you could run tier 3 cove gear in a raid and still be on the scoreboard.

I do like the basics of this system, it's the details that bug me. Constant observable progress is a great thing, being able to swap out parts is a great thing, and picking a ML that gives it some life without unbalancing too many levels is great. But they need a decent drop rate, a source outside the raid (like Devil Assault to get GS mats), and a reasonably accessible mechanic (like a 20th run) to get the extraction tools. I guess we'll see soon enough, but so far I'm not convinced either way.

Meursault wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:00am:


Have you seen Epic Orchard gear?

You know you can craft T2 TF without running the raid?

Heard of ToEE? Devils's Gambit? Shavarath 2 Electric Boogaloo? Good non-raid loot in all of those packs.

Sure best in slots are mostly raid loot right now, but it's not knife to gunfight.

Meursault wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 11:03am:


Play the game.

Getting sick of the guys on mobo complaining about stat bumps. It's pretty obvious that the stat bumps are a side way to increase DC's as well, the impact of say +8 total stat bump is much larger for a DC focused character than any other in the current environs.

Granted being able to pack them all into one item is huge as well, but if you have any familiarity with the hurdles DC casters are facing, and you look at the other feat and destiny changes it doesn't take a genius to see who they are directed at.

The irony is that many of the fools complaining about it are DC complainers worried that it will put the Melee and ranged toons even farther ahead of them! These guys are such a lost cause, I wouldn't be surprised if they fuck this up with all the complaints.

Very good point. It's so infuriating that these people don't take the time to actually research before they complain. That kind of ignorant posting is damaging.

Technomage wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:


Wait. Are you fucking telling me they're splitting Legendary up into E/H/N/C?!

Since when is 'C' an option for raids?

Aint it LN, LH, LE?

m4lacka wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am:


Whats the difference, all points considered? Call a spade a spade and move on.

WeHaveLived wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:29pm:


The two Vale quests should be legendary assuming they're Level 31 or greater.