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Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm
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"Deadly" on a weapon should simply be the +.

For example: Longsword

Now, add deadly.

You have a +5 Longsword --> a deadly longsword.

Ta-Daa!

Any chance you can lower the min lv to 28 on this stuff? One level sounds rather weak to be able to use it. Two would be nice! Nobody will get hurt if lv 28's are using any of this stuff.


The + Enhancement Bonus to weapons also adds weapon damage, which stacks with Deadly.

And no, ML29 is locked in at this point, sorry.

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again, I don't like blur on high level gear because we already should be able to UMD scrolls and wands or find it on other gear. I would assume that we will be able to craft a perma blur greensteel item from epic Shroud as well.

I also don't like alacrity on gear since it does not stack with haste, except in low levels. 15% for ML 29 gear is pretty weak. I would suggest either replacing it with speed or change how alacrity works on a lower percentage to stack with haste.


Not everyone has easy access to Blur or Haste. We'll take a look at the alacrity numbers, but do not expect Alacrity on items to stack with Haste. Probably ever.

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How about the group that would like the one thing you've never, e.v.e.r, put on wraps? Would it be too much to ask for a set with either/or naturally expanded crit range or multiplier? So many options exist in every other weapon type, but for the weapons with the worst crit profile in the game? Nope. Nada. Nothing. I appreciate the work (and it has been loads of work for you guys) that's gone into the game, but wraps remain without a single option for improving upon what is undeniably the worst natural crit profile in-game. It's nigh unfathomable to me.


We had considered expanding the Crit Range/Multiplier on these wraps, but the reason we've never done that is that it doesn't work, on a technical level. (The crits were inside you, all along!)

It's one of the reasons we are planning to revamp Handwraps.

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Probably already detected, but when anyone links me their new shiny loot, it appears like this when I examine it:



Ie, it do not show the description of any effects, besides enhancement bonus, and paragon/epic status. I have no problem on visualization with items I looted myself.


Yep! This is due to the Randomized Loot Pass in progress.

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Any reason for no +3 spell dc bonus on caster Heavy and Medium armors replaced by Displacement clickies that can be crafted as accessories with the old greensteel? This forces Clerics, Favored Souls and Druids and to a lesser extent Enlightened Warlocks to use Light armor to maximize their DC's.


We are OK with needing to make difficult choices about armor with regards to spell DCs in the case of these armors. It does not mean all future armors will have the same situation, and there are a lot of other boosts to spell DCs in this update as well. (A LOT. Probably more than we've added in any update.)

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Will we see legendary versions of old TS and HOX loots? I was assuming that VOD would go legendary next year and was hoping for a legendary glacial assault set


No, sorry.

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Why no Dodge on the Outfit?
Dodge is hard to find on gear that doesn't clash for a Monk and I find it disappointing that there's no Dodge bonus on this outfit {I'd happily lose Angelic Grace or the Threat Reduction for +5% Quality Dodge! - Heck Threat Reduction is utterly useless when soloing anyway!}.

And what's with the Old Deathblock on the Robe? Arcane Casters don't get Deathward and Divines won't wear a Robe.


Oh and I'm not sure Angelic Grace is strong enough at that level {especially for a Monk who won't have super high PRR to reduce the incoming dmg} those temp hp won't make a difference when you're taking 4-500 dmg per hit!
How long do they last anyway - 6 Seconds? 30 Seconds?


I can talk to NohBob about Dodge on the outfit.

Old Deathblock is on the Robe for Pale Masters. Who (as seen later in the thread) seem upset that only the Robe has Old Deathblock.

Can't please everyone, sadly. There are compelling reasons to have options for both.

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Can we get "castery stuff" like spell mastery on heavy versions ?
More options, just like you did change TF armours.


Not planning on that in this update, sorry.

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Boundless
gives +4 PRR (description says 5)

Planar Compass
gives 9 PRR (description says 10)
gives 4 MRR (description says 5)

Construct's Mantle
cannot be worn (by a PDK 15)
unbound

Brazenband
gives 4 dodge (says 3)

Boots of the Devil Commander
give 4 PRR (says 5)
give 9 MRR (says 10)

U29 Orb
gives 10 profane negative (says 5)
Why profane again? Let's give different type

Subtle Sound
cannot be worn (by a PDK 15)
unbound
very weak


Thanks for the feedback. Some of this is due to the still-in-progress adjustments to the Scaling Loot, as mentioned in the boobies.

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Really having a hard time understanding how this impacts the named items and effects as listed.

For example, for all the effects listed for Heavy Plate - Melee - Platemail of the Celestial Avenger, are the effects and values static? Or do they vary based on scaling effects?

Can we get some specific examples to help us understand please?


The values you see on these items will be static. The "scaling" portion is entirely on our end, involving how we stat things; rather than having 30 PRR effects (one for each level) for loot, we have one and then assign it a value based roughly on the level of the item. (That's abstracting it a bit, but the idea's there). The numbers are still in flux during the Lamannia process as we try and nail down how the curve for each effect should scale.


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Medium - NonMetal - Scalemail of the Celestial Avenger


+13 Enhancement Bonus
Quality - Alacrity - Enhancement Bonus to Melee Alacrity 15%
Insight - Deadly - +6 Deadly Insight Bonus
Fortification - Enhancement Bonus to Fortification (160%)
Sheltering - Sheltering (+38 MRR and PRR)
Blurry - 20% Concealment
Deathblock IX -
Parrying - +10 Insight Bonus to AC, +5 Insight Bonus to Fortitude, Reflex, and Willpower
Augment - Yellow
Augment - Green


Quality should be a Quality bonus? (typo?)


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You might wanna go through the entire list as there are more items where Enhancement, Quality and Insight are mixed around.


Yes, there are a few places where the bonus type names were mixed up. In the above case, it should be Enhancement, not Quality. I'll make some edits to the OP shortly.

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Is that cloak suppose to be Warforged/Bladeforged only?


No (especially with the Construct Exemplar feat coming in U29), but it would clearly be most useful to those races.



My immediate take a way is:

-They are not entertaining content changes only tweaks to UI.

-No T.S. or HOX theme loot, lazy myopic fuckers.

-Why are they talking with Fran??
  
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Can you share your reasoning for this? The 20th completion reward is a fairly time-honored way for a player to have a shot at an item which they were simply unlucky enough not to have had drop for them. It is also a reward for a large amount of completions at the Epic Normal level. 20 completions seems like a rather large number, and given the change in raid timers removing the reward for that achievement seems to be a bit harsh.


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That one is easy. You are guaranteed tokens every run. No need for a 20th. Shroud only has a 20th because you can't craft the taint remover. If you could craft it, you wouldn't need a 20th there either.


This is more or less correct. 20th lists are largely replaced with the BTA "Codex Runes" (but different items for other raids). The most important factor here is that it allows us to reward hard and elite. In the past, it was common practice for many raids to simply play the raid 20 times on Normal. We don't want that to simply be the obviously best way to get the rewards from that raid. Since we do expect Hard an Elite to take more time and resources (and possible failure chance) compared to Normal, those difficulties should be more rewarding than Normal, as well.

20th lists are not ideal in terms of allowing players to play content in a way that is engages and challenges them. We know many players want to be challenged, but feel that method is "playing wrong" if they could get the same rewards faster by not being challenged.

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You mean we are going to have even MORE ingredients to manage?!

Can't we come up with some method of streamlining the various types of crafting and all the stuff required to do it.

Can't we come up with more generic ingredients, etc. that could drop in all quests, and be useful at all levels in out careers, and not be such a hassle to store, keep track of, figure what the heck it is used for.....etc. (manage)
No. It cannot be done in that manner (at least, not entirely).


We're willing to hear suggestions, but the following requirements must be met:
Players cannot have all available ingredients before new quest(s) using those ingredients come out. Update 29 would almost automatically be a failure if nearly everyone had fully upgraded Legendary Green Steel the day it released.
Playing each quest pack needs to be incentivized. While we respect that players would something like to just play whatever quest they want, playing Haverdasher again and again should not give access to Thunderforged, Green Steel, and Temple of Elemental Evil items.
Ingredients and Crafting generally exists to make life easier and less frustrating, not harder. We absolutely could just have each and every augment from Legendary Green Steel drop as rewards in the Shroud (tier 1s where tier 1 ingredients drop, tier 3s only in the end chest, etc.), and blanks could just randomly appear in the end chest. But with 40+ different blanks and 600+ different augments, the chance of getting what you want is extremely low. This would entirely eliminate all LGS ingredients, and be far less fun and engaging and probably frustrating.


We've tried to retain much of the flavor and possibilities of Heroic Green Steel while reducing complexity. There are dozens of ingredients from Heroic Green Steel that we've chosen to not carry over to Legendary (including entire tiers of ingredients: Chipmunk Funk etc. x5, Tapers etc. x~12, 5 Shavarath Stones + 1 Signet Stone, dead power cells, the need to charge dead power cells, "empty" shards). We're aware players aren't always keenly interested in lots of ingredients.

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New Legendary Green Steel effects missig Force, Repair and Sonic spell power. Is there any chance to add them? As well as melee dmg versions.
We are unlikely to add these to Legendary Green Steel. There's a lot of possibilities already, and it is not our goal that every desirable attribute as part of Green Steel (as we've received requests for a wide variety of things besides these spell powers, though spell powers are commonly brought up). Some of these will definitely appear on other items, including random loot.


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So it looks to me like the plan is to have improved crit pofiles for all legendary GS weapons. I don't think that's a good idea.

Giving LGS better crit is going to limit design of future named weapons, because they will have to compete with LGS.
Especially combined with the improved base damage, these are some really powerful weapons. It would be totally fine to give them only the improved base damage. Improved crit profiles can just be added to the bonus effects for having 3 augments (this would also allow for an option where players can choose which kind of crit improvement they prefer).

Really like the way most of the new weapons look like, but please make something different for the khopesh. A khopesh is not the same thing as a scimitar.


As noted in the second post:
Weapons have often incorrect critical profiles and base damage for this build.

Additionally, while I'm not sure of exactly which items are still coming in, not all new art is in place. We made a special effort to get some of the new art in place so players can get a general idea of what it looks like, but most of it wasn't ready yet.

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I guess that if one were to compare it to heroic GS, the heroic GS weapons are blahh until you get the bonus effect from tier 3 (with some exceptions.) They still haven't shared the active 'clickies' aspect as well.


We're more than happy for players to compare the tiered heroic weapon effects to the ones you guys have seen in Legendary Green Steel so far. They're quite directly inspired with few major design changes, other than the numbers and bonus types (which we've generally made much kinder - many effects in Heroic Green Steel used the same bonus type for all three tiers for the same stats, so only the best would apply).

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Tier 2 Bug: Insightful Intel +7 shard has been applied, and it DOES affect character intel, but does not show up in weapon description (tooltip).


As noted in the second post, tooltips on the weapons themselves do not yet reflect the augments or slots in them. We just haven't done that UI work yet.





My take a way:

-Vag is a cunt.

-He post a one of the multitude of complaints about the removal of the 20th and tries to kill it by posting and then agreeing with one of the only two posts in favor of the 20th reward removal... dishonest, cherry picking mother  fucker.

-Vag is like Janice in accounting, he don't give a fuck.

-They are not interested in knowing what they missed.

-He doesn't want to deal with you whiners and your binding complaints.

-Instead of addressing fresh comments and issues, he wastes his time posting two player comments that were addressed in post two, talking about filler.
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Re: Post Lamma Dev comments don't expect changes
Reply #2 - Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:42pm
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Re: Post Lamma Dev comments don't expect changes
Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:43pm
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Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
No T.S. or HOX theme loot


That really sucks.

It seems that this would be one of the easiest things to do, just take the old loot and bump up the numbers, maybe add a few already-existing effects... but what do I know, I'm just a player.Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Since we do expect Hard an Elite to take more time and resources (and possible failure chance) compared to Normal


I read that as "normal is autocompletion."  MEH.

Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
This would entirely eliminate all LGS ingredients, and be far less fun and engaging and probably frustrating.


Which would be a good idea, IF THE FUCKING INGREDIENTS WERE TRADABLE.
  
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Wow.  Those first two posters are morons.  That Hoglum guy not getting the difference between the enhancement bonus and the deadly effect.  FFS.

Then Qhualor.  "Let's not put blurry on any gear because everyone can just use blur scrolls."  What a dipshit.  The same would go for stoneskin, featherfall, haste, and displacement too.  Who can't reach 28 on UMD?  Even cross class it is 11 ranks + 10 Epic levels + 4 GH +2 Good luck = 27 without even talking about your charisma or any items to help out.

So what?  Any effects that can be mirrored with a level 4 or lower scroll should be dropped from loot?  Because I want my barb or monk scrolling that shit every 30 to 90 seconds?  Is he really that clueless?
  
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Re: Post Lamma Dev comments don't expect changes
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Starkjade wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:43pm:
just take the old loot and bump up the numbers,



New bonus type. Stacking Incremental Bonus.
  
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spathic wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:45pm:
New bonus type. Stacking Incremental Bonus.


Heh.

Followed by:

New Stacking Incremental Bonus

Newer Stacking Incremental Bonus

Newer New Stacking Incremental Bonus

New Newer New Stacking Incremental Bonus

Newerer Stacking Incremental Bonus

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Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not everyone has easy access to Blur or Haste.

u wot m8

Asheras wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:45pm:
So what?  Any effects that can be mirrored with a level 4 or lower scroll should be dropped from loot?

no just blur, and feather fall, and nightshield, and a few others. Displace and haste are 30 second scrolls and they should be longer lasting clickies. But the others are all 2 to 3 minutes. Anything that long should never waste a gear slot, ideally.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2015 at 1:18pm
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Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
There will be upcoming posts re: binding status (others are writing them).



Missed this line.

Anyone else picturing those posts just being a .gif of a giant middle finger?

Why do I still have hope?
  
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Did I mention that the 20th list was already on the dev kill list last year ?

  
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 1:01pm:
u wot m8

no just blur, and feather fall, and nightshield, and a few others. Displace and haste are 30 second scrolls and they should be longer lasting clickies. But the others are all 2 to 3 minutes. Anything that long should never waste a gear slot, ideally.



Yep.  And that works great for all classes to invest in cross class umd, even Barbs who have to drop rage for it to work.  It shouldn't be the only thing on the item, to be sure.  But as one of a group of items, it is fine.  Of course things like FF come in augments.  I'd argue that smaller effects like blur and nightshield might be better as yellow augments.  But that's different than saying "they should never be on gear because you can scroll them".  It was a clueless comment from a guy who doesn't play the game except when his guildies call him out for it.
  
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Flav wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 2:34pm:
Did I mention that the 20th list was already on the dev kill list last year ?



It was probably thought of as a way to limit the value of raid timers.  What would be the point of blowing past chest ransack if there was no 20th reward waiting for you?

But then, if we had to rely on end chest drops for MoD or DoJ, that'd be a nightmare grind. 

I'm really disappointed they are doing away with 20th's though.  That has been a staple of raid system forever.  It is the saving grace of endless grind.  As someone with horrible loot luck, I have relied heavily on 20th runs to get the majority of my end game gear.
  
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I, tool will miss the 20th reward. I absolutely HATE completely random-ass drops. Having the luxury of knowing that "if I just finish my 20, I'll have a chance at something" is nice.

Having to rely on luck... yeah, I, too, have extremely bad loot luck. In fact, bad loot luck was what drove me to the vault in the first place...
  
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Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not everyone has easy access to Blur or Haste.

People use fucking blur still?

Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
We're aware players aren't always keenly interested in lots of ingredients.

Aware yet, every crafting system introduced ever required buying another ingredient bag...Ok bro
  
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Grand wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
-No T.S. or HOX theme loot, lazy


What a pack of unimaginative jerks, they have no appreciation for the history of the game's high points. No matter how many times Sev or Cordo pays lip service the actions of the Devs show the sad truth.

HOX and TS themed gear is a damn no brainer!

This is why this team was able to screw up ToEE.
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The + Enhancement Bonus to weapons also adds weapon damage, which stacks with Deadly.

Smiley Missing the point. Deadly can be on gear and enhance yer weapon. An enhancement bonus on gear would create confusion as to what it was enhancing.

The original complaint was probably miffed at Deadly showing up on weapons, in which case, why wouldn't it just be added to the enhancement number instead? Answer = coding. Why make that extra coding work when nobody is confused? Second answer = Fuck your spellcasters. Just fuck 'em. We hate magic, creativity, ingenuity, roleplaying, and D&D. Fuck you all.
  
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Except for every single lvl 28 toon, because it's a fucking feat.
  
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Revaulting wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Except for every single lvl 28 toon, because it's a fucking feat.


don't ignore that perma Blur will be the rogue feat at lvl 30, even though blur is on every piece of rogue gear since motu

Starkjade wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:43pm:
It seems that this would be one of the easiest things to do, just take the old loot and bump up the numbers, maybe add a few already-existing effects... but what do I know, I'm just a player.


fucking lazy bastards can't make decent gear and they get this easy layup to upgrade existing gear, they can't be bothered

i was looking forward to the epic versions of the Full Plate of Giants, Maelstrom, Cloak of Invisibility, Thaarak Wraps,  Levik's Bracers and Defender
  
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I was kinda hoping for an ubered up Divine Vengeance
  
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Revaulting wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Except for every single lvl 28 toon, because it's a fucking feat.


or a lvl 27 toon as its a boots of innocent.
Or a ml25 EE jorgundal collar for melees.

Ofc they are not easy to get, but they still exist.
  
Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics.

Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed.


Arkat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:14pm:
And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently!

Wow.

Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School?

No? Then STFU you fucking amateur.


Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 12:03am:
Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people.


IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 5:40pm:
Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Flav wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 2:34pm:
Did I mention that the 20th list was already on the dev kill list last year ?



By kill you mean, completely removing it OR changing it to showing only 30-50% listed named items for mod and doj?

And is it gonna be killed soon/next update?

DO I HAVE TO START PANICING NOW???
  
Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics.

Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed.


Arkat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:14pm:
And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently!

Wow.

Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School?

No? Then STFU you fucking amateur.


Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 12:03am:
Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people.


IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 5:40pm:
Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Reply #21 - Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:47am
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m4lacka wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 2:59am:
By kill you mean, completely removing it OR changing it to showing only 30-50% listed named items for mod and doj?

And is it gonna be killed soon/next update?

DO I HAVE TO START PANICING NOW???


Kill completely, but only in the new Shroud raid... for now...
I think the other two raids will still have 20ths.
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Re: Post Lamma Dev comments don't expect changes
Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2015 at 6:41am
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m4lacka wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 2:59am:
By kill you mean, completely removing it OR changing it to showing only 30-50% listed named items for mod and doj?

And is it gonna be killed soon/next update?

DO I HAVE TO START PANICING NOW???


Well IIRC what they proposed was to raise the drop rate of items in raids at the same time... so that by the 20th raid you had at least 100% chance to have 1 ( one ) single random Raid Named Item drop.

compare that to having 100% chance to have The Item you wanted drop in the 20th list.
  
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Flav wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 6:41am:
Well IIRC what they proposed was to raise the drop rate of items in raids at the same time... so that by the 20th raid you had at least 100% chance to have 1 ( one ) single random Raid Named Item drop.

compare that to having 100% chance to have The Item you wanted drop in the 20th list.


Yay, 20 raids over several months for a 100% chance of a single BTC item from a long list of shit I may not need.  Sounds awesome. 
Do any of these Turbine devs actually play the game?
  
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Reply #24 - Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:57am
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PersonaNonGrata wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:06am:
Do any of these Turbine devs actually play the game?


No.

Next question.
  
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