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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Dec 8^th, 2015 at 9:50am	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/468531-Can-Buddy-Bonus-XP-be-here-to-s... Quote: ~ Events and bonuses designed to encourage grouping are much more effective if they are designed to funnel players into concurrent times. In other words, one reason this tends to be effective is because the limited nature of the event encourages many players to be seeking out grouped content at the same time. If it were always on you wouldn't see the same level of urgency and that would make it much less effective. ~ For a long time in DDO players felt that grouping was required. We don't want to swing the pendulum too far so that players feel that grouping is required and they are being penalized for playing solo. Having grouping events mitigates this issue. ~ DDO couldn't absorb that much extra experience if it were constantly available. The bonus would need to be much smaller, and that would not be as exciting to players. Sev~ That last point I disagree with, especially considering the coming cap raise.


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #1 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 10:24am	Print Post
	Okay, I will continue to group only rarely, and only with people I know, except for once every three months or whenever the hell they run the bonus.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #2 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:38am	Print Post
	A game with infinitely replayability thanks to the massive TR cycle "can't absorb that much extra XP" yep. That's reasonable. Motherfucker. The Buddy bonus was the best thing to happen to DDO. I had NEVER seen so many LFMs up.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #3 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:39am	Print Post
	Also, speaking as a largely solo player, I'd be totally cool with getting "penalized" for not being in a group, seeing as how I mainly solo BECAUSE THERE ARE NO GROUPS.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9989 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #4 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:26pm	Print Post
	yeah it has been his 'standard answer' to any change that actually went back to really encouraging grouping, like bringing back underlevel bonus... Le Sigh

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #5 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	I feel like buddy bonus was just the most ideal middle ground. The game has so much diversity now that you don't need a dedicated healer or a "balanced group" really any old hodgepodge of characters can get through a dungeon - which is exactly what you want to see in a game. I recall playing WoW many years ago when it was very stringly tank/healer/DPS oriented and several character classes being basically left out in the cold. If you weren't a specific class with a specific spec you might get to tag along. And this was in a game with no soloing. What DDO NEEDS is to encourage grouping without breaking soloing. The Buddy Bonus did this amazingly well.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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merciless Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 273 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #6 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	That is indeed, total bollocks.....even a grade A, full-time weasel like Sev must get a tiny little pang of inner embarrassment coming out with crap like that.

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #7 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	They are just setting us up to make us pay for it somehow....


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #8 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	Christ, they're so full of shit it's laughable. I'm sure he lays in bed in the morning, thinking up the most tenuous horseshit he can tack onto his latest bugbear.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #9 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 2:55pm: Christ, they're so full of shit it's laughable. I'm sure he lays in bed in the morning, thinking up the most tenuous horseshit he can tack onto his latest bugbear. ...you believe he THINKS before saying shit like that? I assumed he just turns around, spreads his ass cheeks, and whatever tumbles out gets posted.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #10 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	merciless wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 1:05pm: even a grade A, full-time weasel like Sev must get a tiny little boner ftfy

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #11 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:05pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:54pm: I recall playing WoW many years ago when it was very stringly tank/healer/DPS oriented and several character classes being basically left out in the cold. Funny how DDO had 5 times more population when it was like that, eh ?
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #12 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:13pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:05pm: DDO had 5 times more population was also before motu. before all your epic gear became worthless from new gear in quests and turn ins. that broke a lot of people. it also broke the game in the same way. All those hox, lob, ma, tod, vod and titan runs to trick out your toons meant nothing. you all needed to get the new shinies with the same ML and because of that the content holding all that prior loot was also obsoleted. why run it?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #13 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 2:57pm: ...you believe he THINKS before saying shit like that? I assumed he just turns around, spreads his ass cheeks, and whatever tumbles out gets posted. I prefer to attribute malice rather than stupidity to people because I'm a hopeless optimist.


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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #14 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	I was on most of last night. There was an average of 2-3 lfms up during the 6 hrs i was on. At one point.. there was 0 for a good while. Well ither than the 6 ghost lfms the cant fix. And whats up with them not fixing the lfm panel. You have to look on the who list to see whos in a lfm still.. wtf? How long has this been broken? Seems like a year to me. Prolly not a complete year but its gotta be close.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #15 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:05pm: Funny how DDO had 5 times more population when it was like that, eh ? I think the population boom was due to the newness of the game as opposed to player's desire for such a play-style. I recall when DDO was first being advertised, watching people get excited and seeing WoW players desert in droves for it. Some gamers I think jsut move from game to game. A new MMO comes out, they play for a few years, they get tired of it, they move on. This is why new games get huge spikes in server population, then slowly die off.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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no. DQ Assaulter Offline Just no. Posts: 454 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2013	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #16 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	Skrilla wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:53pm: I was on most of last night. There was an average of 2-3 lfms up during the 6 hrs i was on. At one point.. there was 0 for a good while. Well ither than the 6 ghost lfms the cant fix. And whats up with them not fixing the lfm panel. You have to look on the who list to see whos in a lfm still.. wtf? How long has this been broken? Seems like a year to me. Prolly not a complete year but its gotta be close. That's not broken, it's "fixed." Their solution to long load times causing folks to crash. Their fix was to not load the who panel until you manually click on it. Don't expect a better solution. Ever.


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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #17 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:34pm	Print Post
	no. wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:09pm: That's not broken, it's "fixed." Their solution to long load times causing folks to crash. Their fix was to not load the who panel until you manually click on it. Don't expect a better solution.� Ever. Really? Thats fixed..lol.. many people still ask how to see whos on lfms. I thought there would be a better fix than that.. but then again i dont work for turdbine.


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #18 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 9:45pm	Print Post
	Skrilla wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:34pm: eally? Thats fixed..lol.. many people still ask how to see whos on lfms. I thought there would be a better fix than that.. but then again i dont work for turdbine. Type your own character name into the search bar as soon as you log in, and the LFM and Who panels seem to load faster.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #19 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 10:25pm	Print Post
	Skrilla wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:53pm: I was on most of last night. There was an average of 2-3 lfms up during the 6 hrs i was on. At one point.. there was 0 for a good while. Well ither than the 6 ghost lfms the cant fix. And whats up with them not fixing the lfm panel. You have to look on the who list to see whos in a lfm still.. wtf? How long has this been broken? Seems like a year to me. Prolly not a complete year but its gotta be close. Dude. Switch servers. That's weak AF.


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #20 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:38am	Print Post
	Buddy bonus is the bestemest shit ever. I was never that drunk while playing DDO and groups were still happy to drag me along. Trapper bards for the win: Sing, trap, pike!

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #21 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Dude I always love playing DDO with drunk people, its hilarious, I'd never turn you down for being drunk! Best shroud ever was when we had a drunk raid leader

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Illetirated Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 19^th, 2013	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #22 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:09pm	Print Post
	Sev only wants people to group once every 2 months. OK. I'll keep not playing DDO. Buddy bonus should be +3% per player, for +15% with full group, with additional +1% for party leader for each additional member so leader gets 5% more than members. It's a small bonus, as much as ransack, and it provides an incentive for people to play together and lead groups.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9077 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #23 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:18pm	Print Post
	Fuck that, that's terrible. You'll end up with 1,000 identicle LFMs as everyone "Wants to be the leader" for that extra 5%, fuck that noise so hard. When was the last time you were in a group where the guy with the star did fuck-anything besides hit "Accept" on incoming join requests? That's not worth giving him more XP than anyone else. Fuck that.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Sev on why Buddy Bonus is not permanent Reply #24 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:55pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:18pm: Fuck that, that's terrible. You'll end up with 1,000 identicle LFMs as everyone "Wants to be the leader" for that extra 5%, fuck that noise so hard. When was the last time you were in a group where the guy with the star did fuck-anything besides hit "Accept" on incoming join requests? That's not worth giving him more XP than anyone else. Fuck that. Yeah I think way too many people will want to be quest leader for Xp and this will make too many sparsely populated LFMs. Tho there really are a lot of people who don't want the star so maybe not.


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