On a scale of 1 to Thunderforged.


I did my first legendary shroud run yesterday and was quite surprised to find I walked out with enough mats for the blank(love how easy the blanks are). I also discovered that you could straight up buy a lot of small and medium ingredients(which is... I'm not complaining but I know a lot of people will get butt-hurt about it) SO yeah, I could have a tier two weapon right off the proverbial bat.

But, I am curious: exactly how grindy is that third tier, and is it like oldschool GS where tiers 1 and 2 were just kind of meh and tier 3 added all the shinyness?










Placing bets. P4P's auto-response will be (A) stupid, (B) poorly thought out, (C) more lying about not playing, or (D) all of the above. Personally, my hope is for (E): this will be the ONE thread today he has enough self-control not to respond to. I'm callin you out P4P, free vault-cred waiting if you DON'T respond to this one!

That's pretty awesome. I'm glad its a bit more front-loaded, I may yet roll up an item for my next life(not worth making one on this one - its been fun but I won't be playing a GxB life again for a long time, if ever).

So how closely does it follow the old system in terms of the tiers? I was thinking of doing whatever the modern equivalent of Aspect of Mineral II is for the DR-breaking.

He's coming to stalk grand soon lol.

Thunderforged wasn't that bad of a grind.  I ran Reavers Fate 80 times for Madstone boots on one toon.  Because the 20th run lists weren't full lists.  Or, the grind for the original red dragon armor.  20 scales plus the shard of the red dragon?  That was way more than 20-25 runs. 

But, on topic, this isn't too bad.  You can get a lot of power from t1 and t2 and can make them quickly. 

ILoveExploits wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:05pm:


heard that.  fucking pita.  But at least you got some +4's along the way.

Asheras wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Whut eez thees "+4" of wheech u speek?

(I miss those days...)

noamineo wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 6:48pm:


Do you mean skill tomes?

Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 5:21am:


Around 80 runs only to find out I already had it somewhere in a green bag (I'm a NOOB I know)

I'm so not going to farm for LGS. I think items from raids that require extensive crafting should met one or both requisites:

- Have an extra lower level so you can use at your earliest convenience
- Be very, very powerful

lv 26 is too low since I can easily use a tier 2 TF and complete any quest I want (not to mention the fact that LGS seems like an half assed version of what the heroic is)

TF weapons are very powerful and, some effects, are extremely powerful that they had to nerf or invalidate in legendary content. The set requires waaaaaaaaaay too many items to be worthwhile and is excruciating to farm for casters since it's the only way they can get spell citical chance

LGS does not meet any of requisites (just an opinion of course). The amount of grind in return for character power is just not worth it

Artorias wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 1:41pm:


my kill count trolls melees in end game that still use their tf and think it's very powerful

the legendary vacuum itself is more powerful than all the effects on the tf.

my tf is relocated to portal duty only because it regens  boosts.

how many stacks can this go to? 20?

Hey I've had my filter up, did Puerto Potty post here and get ignored by everyone or not? I'm curious if outright challenging him to shut his ugly face just to prove he can't has paid off for me.

noamineo wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 5:50pm:

Got like 3-4 of those.
Passed 2, made 2 armors.
Got sos shard after so many runs, then next run I get another one.
Grinding for items at this point in ddo is worth it only if you have no pl`s to do, otherwise you will get more use out of past life than that item you are grinding for.

noamineo wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:12am:


There isn't one.  They nerfed it twice and it is till the best 2-hander for early epics.