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Moving caster levels out of epic destinies
Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29pm
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Thread on the mobo:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/471975-Has-the-time-come-to-reconsider...

My favorite part is this quote from Silverleafeon

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I later wrote a letter to Varg, expressing my opinion that I should have supported his original proposal more when it was first introduced.


I didn't know that this guy supporting or not supporting stuff made such a big difference, I guess I've been living under a rock or something.

Hooray for special snowflakes!
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:40pm
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Pseudonym wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29pm:
My favorite part is this quote from Silverleafeon
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Hooray for special snowflakes!



Nailed it! That guy is so far up himself he sees double.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:54pm
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Would be sweet!  I could finally play my 19 monk/1 wizard shiradi spammer.  Wings and zoom zoom zoom ;o
  
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Pseudonym wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29pm:
Hooray for special snowflakes!



Well he was on the PC so..... he is a pretty big deal, all of us are, seriously some of us never fucking stopping telling each other we are, Cordoroid needs to set up a entire sub-forum for half of this PC to gloat in so it stops leaking out into the mains!  Grin Grin Grin
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AtomicMew wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Would be sweet!  I could finally play my 19 monk/1 wizard shiradi spammer.  Wings and zoom zoom zoom ;o

And that would be awesome, because it really would not be game breaking in any way.
  

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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


Smart people don't elicit "side effects."  They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies
Reply #5 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 11:58pm
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Apparently we've been going about this all the wrong way.  Here we are all bitching about Turbine on DDOVault when we should have been getting this asshole to send varg letters.  Maybe then the past 5 updates wouldn't have been shit.

Remi, you ought to tell the PC they should pack up their bags and stop working so closely with the devs.  This guy is obviously more important.
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:06am
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Frank wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 11:54pm:
And that would be awesome, because it really would not be game breaking in any way.


Uurlick seems pretty convinced it would be. How the fuck did he get on PC?

And what the fuck is the 19 monk for??
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:34am
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Sgtgig wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:06am:
Uurlick seems pretty convinced it would be. How the fuck did he get on PC?

And what the fuck is the 19 monk for??

Ask AtomicMew, it's his build.  But do you disagree that it would not be any more powerful a build than the current top dogs?

Already in the main thread I've seen things like "This is very true and it would also be easy to max out chain missle with just 6 levels of wizard if 10 are auto granted." (slarden)

Which is factually correct, but seems to imply that somehow this is a bad thing.  It would be easy to max out Chain Missile yes.  But again, who cares?  Shiradi caster is already a thing, and already does not require a pure Wizard build to max out caster level.  Abishai set, Arcane Augmentation, etc. exist right now and still Shiradi casters are not the king of the hill.  A change that makes it easier to build a Shiradi caster does not break the game.
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Digimonk wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


Smart players know how to use buyback.

Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


Smart people don't elicit "side effects."  They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:41am
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Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:34am:
and already does not require a pure Wizard build to max out caster level. 

yep. the best thing that this change would even do for shiradi is allow you to build them without arcane gloves and abishai sets. whoop-dee-fucking-do. oh, noes, few gear slots swapped, cant deal!!111111!
  

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Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies
Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 1:40am
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Pseudonym wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29pm:
My favorite part is this quote from Silverleafeon

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I later wrote a letter to Varg, expressing my opinion that I should have supported his original proposal more when it was first introduced.


I didn't know that this guy supporting or not supporting stuff made such a big difference, I guess I've been living under a rock or something.

Hooray for special snowflakes!


LMAO.
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 3:21am
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Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:34am:
(slarden)

a retard

Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:34am:
Ask AtomicMew, it's his build

it is actually urlick's quote, atomic was just having some fun at the retards expense. The build would be the worst fucking spammer you could ever build. ever. eva, eva. No spell points, one spell, shit crit chance, no crit multiplier, no tier 5 archmage, no slas.

This is who we have on the council, people. someone telling devs 19monk 1 wiz is broken....
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies
Reply #11 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 3:49am
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The caster level part of EDs was stupid from the start.

Ranged and melee toons just pick the ED that fits them best, casters got screwed.
  

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Reply #12 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 3:58am
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RemRemi wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:56pm:
Well he was on the PC so..... he is a pretty big deal, all of us are, seriously some of us never fucking stopping telling each other we are, Cordoroid needs to set up a entire sub-forum for half of this PC to gloat in so it stops leaking out into the mains!  Grin Grin Grin


The should name it after shoemaker

[quote=Shoemaker]I guess that all that discussion by the PC on this issue contributed to a shift of position, and instead of saying how useless the PC is, you should be thanking them and acknowledging it's not a stunt. [/quote]
  
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Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies
Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 4:09am
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omg, urfag actually thinks 7/7/6 would be op exploiter build.

I cant even can right now.
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #14 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 4:21am
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oh, oh my. seems that someone has got urfag to post vault sock on mobos. is that even allowed, mockduck? Pretty sure my socks have been perma banned for sharing exploits when talking about the vault.



Grin
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 5:54am
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How did you guys miss this gem:

"am sure the Dev's are smart enough to do that."
  
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fork wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 5:54am:
How did you guys miss this gem:

"am sure the Dev's are smart enough to do that."

Grin

whoever Kompera is, that guy just landed a superman overhand knockout punch.


even after urfag backpedaled to his 7/7/6 build, does he really think that a caster with access to only 4th level spells would be better at dc casting than a pure 20? Or does he think that 7/7/6 is a better shiradi for some crazy, clueless, retarded reason?

damn.. he erased his vault sock post.  Wink
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #18 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 10:15am
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it would be sweet for 12warlock/6wiz/2fvs builds. you could actually max chain missile.
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Reply #19 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 10:38am
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 3:21am:
it is actually urlick's quote, atomic was just having some fun at the retards expense.

Ah, I see.  I missed the subtext.
  

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Digimonk wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


Smart players know how to use buyback.

Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


Smart people don't elicit "side effects."  They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Re: Moving caster levels out of epic destinies
Reply #20 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 10:44am
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 6:33am:

O. M. G.

That is hilarious. Tha's so funny i migh almost be worth reading the mobos, though I suspect such breaths of fresh air are few and far between.
  

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Sergod wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 10:15am:
it would be sweet for 12warlock/6wiz/2fvs builds. you could actually max chain missile.

yea, same for any of the 6 builds, but those builds are already getting cl 13, 3 more missiles arent going to break shiradis.
  

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Reply #22 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 11:40am
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Everyone on the mobos thinks they are a fucking genius.

They all have "suggestions".

They all have an "idea!"

They all have "suggestion for an idea!"



  
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DoRayEgon wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 11:40am:
Everyone on the mobos thinks they are a fucking genius.

They all have "suggestions".

They all have an "idea!"

They all have "suggestion for an idea!"






They all post in the suggestions sub forum without realizing none of those ideas ever got taken into consideration by devs  Grin
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Reply #24 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:54pm
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Out of lurker mode just long enough to say...

Wow... it's amazing that rather than admit a lack of knowledge he doubles down on douche-baggery.  I'm impressed.

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