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Re: New U30 ML 30 Loot
Reply #25 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:35pm
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Reply #27 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:34am
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SO, is there a way to get more then 1 cake?
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:49am
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Doggydaddy wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:34am:
SO, is there a way to get more then 1 cake?

Is there more than 1 item you actually want?
  

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Re: New U30 ML 30 Loot
Reply #29 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:55am
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Pseudonym wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:01pm:
Giving out old raid loot for the cake is a fucking terrible idea.

We don't need any less of an incentive to run different raids.

The idea was for it to be a list of some of the more iconic loot of the last 10 years.   Given that most of it comes out of dead content that isn't going to be run anyways it's no big deal.   I'd rather citw loot wasn't in there.   That's a raid that still gets run.
  
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Reply #30 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:31am
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Asheras wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:39pm:
I think you get a cake to eat 1 per character, btc, that will give you something from the birthday list.  Mostly heroic raid loot, some classic named items, or some citw weapons.

The new ml 30 items, you need to grind for with the anniversary event. 

Aha cheers Ash, that makes more sense given it's a birthday and prior track record. Ta.

Edit: So this means I never have to run Abbot for quiver or VON for boots ever again? That is a pretty good present.
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Reply #31 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:34am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 5:10pm:
There's some sweet loot on that list.

Yeah I just saw some long standing gear set holes close up. Even though I'm not actively after most of them because I don't play that type of DDO game now, it's still nice to have a shitty outstanding grind ticked off my stupid internal list.
  
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Reply #32 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:26pm
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Was hoping to see the bauble on the list ):
  

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Reply #33 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:31pm
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Toke wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:26pm:
Was hoping to see the bauble on the list ):

they dont give anything that restores SP out, or make drops not 0.000002%. They sell them in store, 10 bucks a clip for a 100 pots @600-800 sp. You really had hope? rly, rly? naw, rly doe?
  

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Reply #34 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:44pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:31pm:
they dont give anything that restores SP out, or make drops not 0.000002%. They sell them in store, 10 bucks a clip for a 100 pots @600-800 sp. You really had hope? rly, rly? naw, rly doe?


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Reply #35 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 1:01pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:44pm:
Like Twisted Talisman or Draughts of Sparkling Apple Cider?

those are cute if youre retarded.
  

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Reply #36 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 2:04pm
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Is there some kind of explanation of the new anniversary or it's a simple one cake per toon with some named items on the list?

If so I'm not impressed. Oh wait, Turbine....almost forgot  Grin
  
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Reply #37 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 2:17pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:31pm:
they dont give anything that restores SP out, or make drops not 0.000002%. They sell them in store, 10 bucks a clip for a 100 pots @600-800 sp. You really had hope? rly, rly? naw, rly doe?


To be fair, they gave out SP pots in anniversary cakes before. As recently as last year, and most of us know how that turned out.  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #38 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:20pm
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Toke wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 12:26pm:
Was hoping to see the bauble on the list ):


That would have been nice.   I really wanted that too.   Although, as rubbinns said, I suspect there were reasons it was excluded.   I don't recall seeing torc on the list either even though it is universally considered one of the best items in the game for a long time.
  
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Reply #39 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:20pm
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All that shit will be seen by the devs as a brilliant 10 year anniversary because they have so many cock gobblers on the motherfourms 'loving' it  Sad
  
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Reply #40 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:47pm
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Jelly_Muffin wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:20pm:
All that shit will be seen by the devs as a brilliant 10 year anniversary because they have so many cock gobblers on the motherfourms 'loving' it  Sad


It doesn't look like anybody actually likes it... granted, the devs probably take bitching well because it means people are still playing with their moneygrab.

I personally like the raid loot idea, there a just a bunch of salty old vets who are upset because "MY GRIND WENT 2 WASTE". I have most of the old loot too, but there are still things I'm missing and this is a nice way to get them, since I probably will never run most of those raids again with the intention to actually get anything.
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:51pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:20pm:
Was hoping to see the bauble on the list ):


That would have been nice.   I really wanted that too.   Although, as rubbinns said, I suspect there were reasons it was excluded. 


The drop rate got fixed a while back. It's never been easier to farm. You must not want it that badly?
  

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Reply #42 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:53pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:20pm:
That would have been nice.   I really wanted that too.   Although, as rubbinns said, I suspect there were reasons it was excluded.   I don't recall seeing torc on the list either even though it is universally considered one of the best items in the game for a long time.


The servers couldn't handle the load if they had added Torc and Bauble to the list... The lag would have been legendarier than it is already.
  
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Reply #43 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:05pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:55am:
The idea was for it to be a list of some of the more iconic loot of the last 10 years.   Given that most of it comes out of dead content that isn't going to be run anyways it's no big deal.   I'd rather citw loot wasn't in there.   That's a raid that still gets run.


I disagree. Whether or not people were actually going to run the raids to get that loot, the fact remained that people would've had to if they wanted it.

To me, this is an issue exemplified by the abbot loot; some of that stuff is still very much worth having, and allowing people to get it without having to run the raid is silly. You say that people still run CitW, but I'm sure you remember how much less frequently it's run since RR boxes became a thing.

There's no logic behind giving out good items for free just because most people aren't going to work for them at this point in time.

Terrible idea, no way around it. Pretty much anybody that likes it is going to like it BECAUSE they won't have to run shit to get said items.
  
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Reply #44 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:09pm
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Rastelin wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:47pm:
It doesn't look like anybody actually likes it... granted, the devs probably take bitching well because it means people are still playing with their moneygrab.

I personally like the raid loot idea, there a just a bunch of salty old vets who are upset because "MY GRIND WENT 2 WASTE". I have most of the old loot too, but there are still things I'm missing and this is a nice way to get them, since I probably will never run most of those raids again with the intention to actually get anything.


That issue is overblown.  They dropped not one, but two raiders boxes on all toons giving away two pieces of CiTW loot.  And people still run that raid.  I see an LFM about once or twice a week. 

Nobody is grinding out 20 Titans for a chattering ring.  Get real.  But it's a nice piece to have for some leveling.  Maybe.  The new loot gen is so sweet, that even raid loot from 11-17 (Except green steel) is mostly meh.

Here is what I hear:

1)  Bitching because its giving away raid loot and that is too much.

2)  Bitching because it is mostly old, useless stuff and it is too little for an anniversary gift.

3)  Happy to get some items they have heard about and would like, but don't want to grind out.

4)  Bitching because item X isn't on the list. 

I dare anyone to come up with a list that makes everybody (or even 50% of the population) happy.  That list doesn't exist.  Any list will be too much in some eyes and too little in others or just flat the wrong direction to others.  And others will like it.   

  
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Reply #45 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:17pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:09pm:
That issue is overblown.  They dropped not one, but two raiders boxes on all toons giving away two pieces of CiTW loot.  And people still run that raid.  I see an LFM about once or twice a week. 


Once or twice a week, compared to multiple times a day before they released the boxes. While it's true that citw gear is no longer end game, you can't exactly deny that when boxes were first released they had a massive impact on how often the raid was run.

Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Nobody is grinding out 20 Titans for a chattering ring.  Get real.  But it's a nice piece to have for some leveling.  Maybe.  The new loot gen is so sweet, that even raid loot from 11-17 (Except green steel) is mostly meh.


Like I explained in my previous post, it doesn't fucking matter whether or not anyone is actually grinding out 20 titans. If they want the ring, they should have to.

Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Here is what I hear:

1)  Bitching because its giving away raid loot and that is too much.


Yes, it is.

Asheras wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:09pm:
I dare anyone to come up with a list that makes everybody (or even 50% of the population) happy.  That list doesn't exist.  Any list will be too much in some eyes and too little in others or just flat the wrong direction to others.  And others will like it. 


If it hadn't been possible to recycle and dupe cards, I would say that cards were an example of doing it right.

Giving away store items is a fantastic idea, giving raid items is not.
  
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Reply #46 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:28pm
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What they could have done, was, restore my two tr banks. Devorien and Talariia really miss all the stuff in them.

Outside of that, who cares. Not like any of it is going to make a difference.
  

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Reply #47 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 6:21pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 3:51pm:
The drop rate got fixed a while back. It's never been easier to farm. You must not want it that badly?

Approx. 200 hands in chest since they "fixed" it and didn't see on pop.  I opt to chase the TR grind over gear grinding.  TBH, the bauble is the only gear I've come close to grinding.  If the torque is in the list, I'll probably take that.
  

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Reply #48 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:18pm
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Pseudonym wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 5:05pm:
I disagree. Whether or not people were actually going to run the raids to get that loot, the fact remained that people would've had to if they wanted it.

To me, this is an issue exemplified by the abbot loot; some of that stuff is still very much worth having, and allowing people to get it without having to run the raid is silly. You say that people still run CitW, but I'm sure you remember how much less frequently it's run since RR boxes became a thing.

There's no logic behind giving out good items for free just because most people aren't going to work for them at this point in time.

Terrible idea, no way around it. Pretty much anybody that likes it is going to like it BECAUSE they won't have to run shit to get said items.

Yeah, I like it because I can get a nice piece of gear I couldn't otherwise get. If raids aren't being run, there is no opportunity cost for giving away the loot that is in them. I certainly can't solo most raids, and even if I could I don't play often enough to make grinding it viable.

So they get a little more enthusiasm for their dying game and it costs them ... nothing. OK, it costs them the annoyance of people who whine and bitch that they had to work for it so everybody else should. Honestly, having those people pissed off improves my enjoyment of the game. The game is better off without the type of people who quit because somebody else got something nice without working as hard as they did.

People who ran the raid and got the item got the use of it for all this time, so it isn't like they got nothing for their trouble. It's like bitching that the expansion packs are selling for 20 cents on the dollar now. People who paid full price got to use them for a year or two longer, people who got them for 80% off got less use for less money.
  

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Reply #49 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 11:46pm
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Meursault wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Yeah, I like it because I can get a nice piece of gear I couldn't otherwise get. If raids aren't being run, there is no opportunity cost for giving away the loot that is in them. I certainly can't solo most raids, and even if I could I don't play often enough to make grinding it viable.

So they get a little more enthusiasm for their dying game and it costs them ... nothing. OK, it costs them the annoyance of people who whine and bitch that they had to work for it so everybody else should. Honestly, having those people pissed off improves my enjoyment of the game. The game is better off without the type of people who quit because somebody else got something nice without working as hard as they did.

People who ran the raid and got the item got the use of it for all this time, so it isn't like they got nothing for their trouble. It's like bitching that the expansion packs are selling for 20 cents on the dollar now. People who paid full price got to use them for a year or two longer, people who got them for 80% off got less use for less money.


My problem with it isn't primarily that other people will be getting stuff that I worked for, it's that doing this removes potential activities for me and anyone else who wants to get stuff the old fashioned way in a game that has no endgame.

Using myself as an example -
My main character has everything I could possibly want. I've been running stuff to get specific gear for my alts and bots. Giving me one free raid item per char will drastically reduce the number of things that I can spend my time doing.

I'm sure this will benefit many casual players such as yourself, but I've always been of the opinion that games shouldn't cater to casuals at the expense of serious players.

Oh, and please don't tell me that if I don't like the cake I can delete it. The logic was retarded when it was used to tell people that if they find the game too easy they should roll sucky chars and it isn't any less retarded here.


Summarized, my perspective on this is simple: nobody is entitled to free raid loot. Either get it by running the raids or don't get it at all.
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