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SweetKitten Waterworks Kobold Offline Meeow Posts: 125 Joined: May 23^rd, 2013	Port forwarding advice from turbine Mar 8^th, 2016 at 10:56am	Print Post
	There's a strange and detailed tech advice on the motherboards. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/472998-Port-Forwarding-update-and-chan... Quote: If you previously setup port forwarding (or port triggering) on your router and/or modem for ports 9000-9010 UDP, updating the range of ports to 9000-9058 is now recommended. If you have not previously done this and are experiencing disconnecting issues on transitioning areas in game or in general gameplay then you might need forwarding enabled. Damned, sounds like the whole fucking lag when changing areas could be solved since years with some fucking infos from fucking turbine?�


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lostthenloved Abbot Raider Offline I Hate Drama! Posts: 869 Joined: Nov 19^th, 2014	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #1 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 11:01am	Print Post
	lmao they only ever told you this if you put in an out of game ticket and got someone good.


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fork Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 285 Joined: Jan 16^th, 2014	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #2 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	Does this relate to the bug that causes crashing on entering the sands explorer zone?


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lostthenloved Abbot Raider Offline I Hate Drama! Posts: 869 Joined: Nov 19^th, 2014	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #3 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	fork wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:16pm: Does this relate to the bug that causes crashing on entering the sands explorer zone? yes, and necro 4


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #4 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	nothing new, this has been known for ages. http://support.turbine.com/link/portal/24001/24047/Article/4092/DDO-Firewall-Hel... http://ddowiki.com/page/Firewall_setup https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/465398-Routing?p=5689751&viewfull=1#po... https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/333320-About-internet-protocol-setting Just more ports to open in the over 9000 range... Edit : and crashes in Necro and Sand ( and a few other places ) is caused by the inability of your graphic card to handle all the stuff the CPU tells it to handle or by the inability for the PCI-E bus to handle the quantity of said stuff.
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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #5 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	SweetKitten wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 10:56am: There's a strange and detailed tech advice on the motherboards. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/472998-Port-Forwarding-update-and-chan... Damned, sounds like the whole fucking lag when changing areas could be solved since years with some fucking infos from fucking turbine?� the port thing is quite long at the tech sup page. that's where I found about it. I never had problems with entering sands and orchard (thus I cant say if its related) tho from time to time I suffered from frequent connection timeouts when I was entering any quest when in party with someone. manually setting ports sorted this for me.


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Illiterate Titan Demolisher Offline Yataaaa Posts: 359 Location: France Joined: Jul 31^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #6 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	Yeah unlock your door so Turbine can enter easily. Thugs and pedophiles too. "Mom?! How do I get people to DoS my computer?!" "Just setup port forwarding my son, they'll be able to send packets directly to your computer. How cool is that?!"

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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #7 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:29pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:57pm: crashes in Necro and Sand ( and a few other places ) is caused by the inability of your graphic card to handle all the stuff the CPU tells it to handle True. Lowering Object Draw Distance (or upgrading the graphics card) alleviates zone-in DC for most people experiencing this problem. Flav wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 12:57pm: inability for the PCI-E bus to handle the quantity of said stuff False. PCIe bus saturation is not an issue.� PCIe 2.0 8x is enough bandwidth for all but the most bleeding edge video cards in SLI/Crossfire configurations.� Most SLI/Crossfire rigs are PCIe 2.0 x8+x8 and are not throttled by the PCIe bus. A GTX980Ti is theoretically over the saturation point of x8 bandwidth, but DDO isn't running the GPU full throttle at all times to simulate protein folding or calculate mortgage derivatives.� It's demands are much lower than theoretical maximum. TRACERT confirms this.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #8 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	Fingers crossed.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #9 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:29pm: False. PCIe bus saturation is not an issue.� PCIe 2.0 8x is enough bandwidth for all but the most bleeding edge video cards in SLI/Crossfire configurations.� Most SLI/Crossfire rigs are PCIe 2.0 x8+x8 and are not throttled by the PCIe bus. A GTX980Ti is theoretically over the saturation point of x8 bandwidth, but DDO isn't running the GPU full throttle at all times to simulate protein folding or calculate mortgage derivatives.� It's demands are much lower than theoretical maximum. TRACERT confirms this. And what about PCI-E 1.x ? Trust me, I did endure bus saturation on my old computer... Now consider that lots of people ( though not the majority ) uses laptop to play... You get the picture ? ( between the castrated CPU/GPU and the low spec PCI-E interface it's enough to crash at desert, king forest and necro... at least ) Or said another way when my old rig crashed beyond repair, I changed it, but kept the graphic card ( that was relativley new ). Same graphic card, going from Pentium D930 to I5-4660, so from PCI-E1 1.1 to PCI-E 3.0 crashes went away. The issue was the PCI-E Bus.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #10 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 2:44pm: And what about PCI-E 1.x ? PCIe 1.x x16 slots are the same bandwidth as PCIe 2x x8 slots. They provide more than enough bandwidth for contemporary video cards up to about GTX970. Flav wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 2:44pm: Trust me, I did endure bus saturation on my old computer... I understand that you think you did.� I looked into the hardware you posted as your old build and think you are misreading your experience. Flav wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 2:44pm: Now consider that lots of people ( though not the majority ) uses laptop to play... You get the picture ? ( between the castrated CPU/GPU and the low spec PCI-E interface it's enough to crash at desert, king forest and necro... at least ) This has fuck all to do with PCIe bus saturation. Lousy video cards do not saturate the PCIe bus.� That's not how PCIe bus saturation works. Flav wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 2:44pm: Or said another way when my old rig crashed beyond repair, I changed it, but kept the graphic card ( that was relativley new ). Same graphic card, going from Pentium D930 to I5-4660, so from PCI-E1 1.1 to PCI-E 3.0 crashes went away. The issue was the PCI-E Bus. I'm sure you also did a bare metal install of Windows to the new hardware and made other environmental changes beyond swapping old motherboard/processor/RAM. The picture I get is that you misunderstand your experience. I'm not saying that the upgrade didn't sort out your problem.� I'm saying that your problem wasn't "PCIe bus saturation", because when that happens the result isn't application crashes and your video card doesn't move enough data over the bus to cause it.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Dispel Waterworks Kobold Offline What is dead may never die! Posts: 105 Joined: Feb 29^th, 2016	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #11 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 6:49am	Print Post
	So Turbine tells us to open our ports up wide. Isn't that what they do on the mobo all the time anyway?

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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #12 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:46am	Print Post
	Illiterate wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:23pm: Yeah unlock your door so Turbine can enter easily. Thugs and pedophiles too. "Mom?! How do I get people to DoS my computer?!" "Just setup port forwarding my son, they'll be able to send packets directly to your computer. How cool is that?!" Security is all about your threat model. I've seen nothing doing in the 10 years I've played the game, those ports have been open since I first learned of the info and not one problem. Secure PC, still despite the port forwarding for this and many other apps. Most hacking is achieved through manipulating incredulity and greed, not by port-scanning for 10 year old D&D license games, then working out how to crash them to burn your escalation privilege. There are thousands of easier ways to take over someone's PC. Shit like this just worries non-geek folk unnecessarily. Well, unless Equation have got me but then what could I do about that anyway?
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Port forwarding advice from turbine Reply #13 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:46am: Shit like this just worries non-geek folk unnecessarily. I agree, also most Antivirus softwares are just a way to swindle money from the gullible. If you have a clue about what you're doing and if you have access to every setting in your home router ( here in Froggy Land it's not always the case, some triple-play boxes have lots of stuff locked out by the operator ), you have something quite safe. Now I will always give the advice to use an antivirus/firewall software to all the people that have no clue, because if they don't have a clue, they will do one of the common mistake ( click on an attachment they shouldn't click on, write down the password on a piece of paper where it reads :YouTube password : TheYouTubePassword [ trust me this one is true and it was TV 5 Monde YouTube Account, it went on TV� : http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/tv5monde-hack-staf... )
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