noamineo wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:


Solid yes. Swashbuckling is DISGUSTING.

Just wait until you get Blow by Blow. It's gross.

yeah, your right, forgot about normal play. Just been grinding EPLs and swash is great for all spheres.  I highly recommend for EPLs  Dreadnought, Divine crusader, fury of the wild, and bard trees all work great.  swash makes ETRs easy.

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 12:16am:


I built him wrong on purpose as a joke

lol but seriously, I am in a tick of trouble atm. Turns out I don't have Razorend, though I could turn in my very last set of(very expensive, but got there money's worth) tome pages to get one. I've got weapons, but I haven't got any sort of decent armor to speak of.

I also have the feats Bastard Sword and Heavy Armor Training, so if I want to continue down the path of buckling up all my swashes, I am looking at at least 2 feat swaps. After a few other leveling mistakes it may just be smarter to do an LR.

Thats assuming I even want to go that rout, though. What if I go warchanter, strap on heavy armor, pull out my trusty illegitimate child, and jsut not have an off-hand? It would certainly look cool.

But swashbuckler does seem pretty friggin crazy...

noamineo wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

Re: weapons, you don't seem to be listening to the advice offered here.  Razorend is by no means "essential". A swashbuckler's power comes from the T5 abilities. Which weapon you are using in heroics is a distant secondary concern. 

You could easily run a Swashbuckler from 4 to 20 using a Sky Pirate's Dagger or Tiefling Assassin's Blade and still out kill most people in a random PUG.  Hell, pick anything on this list and run with it.   http://ddowiki.com/page/List_of_Swashbuckler_weapons_with_improved_crit_profile

If for some stupid reason you don't have any of those sitting in the bank, go to the auction house and buy the best RNG <elemental> Damage of Critical <elemental/piercing> Damage light/finessable weapon you can find and go faceroll the missions.

Re: armor, are you seriously a multi-TR who exploited but can't make any light dragonscale armor?  Even if you haven't exploited, it takes half a day at worst to farm 20 black or white scales to make it.  Again, especially in heroics, you could roll with some RNG armor off the AH and do just fine on a swashbuckler.

Suck it up, do the feat swaps or a LR, get a finessable weapon and light dragon armor, then go enjoy swashing...

noamineo wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:08am:


Use literally anything for your weapon, as long as swashbuckling "sees" it it will be good dps. You have a Dice. Use it.

Wear black light dragon armor.

Easy gear.

noamineo wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 3:37pm:


20 black scales - not even flawless scales - is basically nothing. If you ask around I am sure someone will just give them to you. You don't need a thousand, you just need 20.

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The point of swashing your buckles is that any weapon the enhancement can see will end up with roughly the same crit profile. You don't and didn't need Razorend.

noamineo wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Be glad you aren't hunting down great crossbows. Also, you don't have to hunt down anything. Dice will do nicely. For shits n giggles, craft a vampirism weapon. Watch SWF keep you topped out most of the time.

noamineo wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

Play a monk in armor and see if you still think it would be nice. That fucking exclamation point.

Swash does it better. When you qualify for the stance, the stance icon shows up. Granted, there are way too many icons up there and it can get lost. Still, fuck that exclamation point. I ain't pugging with Fran, for fuck's sake.

Revaulting wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 7:32pm:

Said every caster using Master's Touch ever.

But yeah, thanks for the chuckle.

Revaulting wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 7:32pm:


No that was my pure rogue 2 lives ago

LordHumungus wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 12:23am:


The fact that this thread instilled some doubt in your mind should tell you where you're at.

Sailias wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 12:39am:

noamineo wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

Are you referring to this juggernaught, https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/404822-The-Juggernaut-Prime-of-the-War...?

noamineo wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

2013 called and would like it's build back.

Seriously, if you can't/haven't found any modern builds better than that one, I suspect you're not putting a serious amount of effort into looking.  There is a long list of builds here on the Vault and hell, even on the motherboards that are significantly better than the Juggernaught build in multiple ways.

If survivability is your primary concern, roll a 15/5 twf paladin/ranger, a pure 20 thf paladin, a pure 20 warlock, etc. etc.  They will all put the Juggernaught build to shame on survivability and DPS.