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Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:49am
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My recent experiences with Bard have finally taught me the value of healing amplification(I have a very steap learning curve) therefore I have resolved to grind out some paladin past lives before I do another fleshie life(Iconic Bladeforged paladin past lives)

I'm looking at going sword and board for my first life. I have everything else I'd need from previous melee lives, but I am looking for a good tower shield that's usable right away. Any recommendations? Doesn't have to be ML 15 specifically but can't be higher than that. Just wanna have it ready before the TR.
  

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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:34pm
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There's this ML14 tower shield iirc in the cannith quest. Demonic Slab. But before you make the same mistake as last time... Paladins are not proficient with tower shields. Get proficiency.
  
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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:38pm
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Levik's with bracers, Demonic Slab, I think the one from spinner is ok as well but that's ML 16.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:42pm
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noamineo wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 11:49am:
My recent experiences with Bard have finally taught me the value of healing amplification(I have a very steap learning curve) therefore I have resolved to grind out some paladin past lives before I do another fleshie life(Iconic Bladeforged paladin past lives)

I'm looking at going sword and board for my first life. I have everything else I'd need from previous melee lives, but I am looking for a good tower shield that's usable right away. Any recommendations? Doesn't have to be ML 15 specifically but can't be higher than that. Just wanna have it ready before the TR.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ddo+category+tower+shield
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:46pm
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Do you even Skyvault Shield, faggot?
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:47pm
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crunch wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:34pm:
But before you make the same mistake as last time... Paladins are not proficient with tower shields. Get proficiency.

This.  Or just farm the tower shield from Reaver's Fate and Fall of Truth.  Having them equipped auto-grants the tower shield proficiency.

Use the Reaver's shield from 14 to 25 and FoT shield from 24 to 30.


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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 1:02pm
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You're in luck. 

I recently threw a bsword&board build together for a guildie and still had it in my email.  This guildie is very good at dying so the build's focus is on durability, with DPS as a secondary concern.  It is very tight on feats, even with the human bonus.  Enhancements are very flexible however and can be tailored for more DPS as desired.

This was designed to use bsword & tower shield from the get go.  Traditional Vault wisdom says you may be better in early heroics if you swapped the order of the bsword, tower shield prof, and shield mastery feats with the THF feats and just roll with a Carnifex, SoS, Riftmaker, etc. until higher levels if you wish.
 
Personally, I think if you want to play a sword & board build, go all in and do it from the start for the experience.  It's interesting to me to see how various builds compare to others at differing levels of the game.  Some have their power front loaded in the early levels and some don't come into their own until much later.   Some perform well from start to finish.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 1:03pm
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Paladin 20
Lawful Good Human


Stats
               32pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        16       +5       4: CHA
Dexterity       13       +5       8: CHA
Constitution    14       +5      12: CHA
Intelligence     9       +5      16: CHA
Wisdom           8       +5      20: CHA
Charisma        16       +5      24: CHA
                                 28: CHA

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Balance   1  ˝  1  1  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝     11
Jump                  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  ˝  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  ˝  ˝     11
Concent                                                      1  2  4   7
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          8  2  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  5  5


Feats

1        : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
1 Human  : Tower Shield Proficiency
1 Deity  : Follower of: Sovereign Host
3        : Shield Mastery
6        : Precision
6 Deity  : Unyielding Sovereignty
9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
12        : Two Handed Fighting
15        : Improved Shield Mastery
18        : Quicken Spell
21 Epic   : Improved Two Handed Fighting
24 Epic   : Improved Shield Bash
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Harbinger of Chaos
30 Epic   : Greater Two Handed Fighting
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Spells

   1. Divine Favor, Protection from Evil, Bless, Resistance
   2. Resist Energy, Remove Paralysis, Owl's Wisdom, Eagle's Splendor
   3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Prayer, Magic Circle Against Evil, Remove Curse
   4. Holy Sword, Zeal, Death Ward, Cure Serious Wounds

Enhancements (80 AP)

Vanguard (41 AP)
    • To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II, Vicious Shield II, Shield Champion
         1. Shield Specialization, Armor Training III
         2. Shield Specialization, Missile Shield III, Melee Power Boost III
         3. Shield Specialization, Fatal Bulwark, Shield Riposte II, Strength
         4. Shield Specialization, Myrmidon's Edge III, Strength
         5. Shield to the Face, Disorienting Smash III, Armored Strength

Sacred Defender (22 AP)
    • Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense, Divine Righteousness, Redemption
         1. Extra Lay On Hands II, Durable Defense III
         2. Bulwark Aura II, Resilient Defense III
         3. Resistance Aura II, Hardy Defense III, Charisma
         4. Swift Defense

Knight of the Chalice (17 AP)
    • Slayer of Evil
         1. Extra Turning I, Extra Remove Disease III
         2. Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III
         3. Improved Restoration III


Destiny (24 AP)

Divine Crusader
   1. Endless Turning III, Purge the Wicked, Charisma
   2. Charisma
   3. Blessed Blades, Charisma
   4. No Regret, Charisma
   5. Castigation, Heavenly Presence, Celestial Champion, Charisma

Twists of Fate (6 fate points)
   1. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
   2. Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)
  
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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 1:08pm
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crunch wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 12:34pm:
There's this ML14 tower shield iirc in the cannith quest. Demonic Slab. But before you make the same mistake as last time... Paladins are not proficient with tower shields. Get proficiency.


Lol - fair enough Tongue but yes I can take Tower Shield proficiency or just keep casting Master's Touch. Dealing with a none-proficient weapon is a lot easier than sorting out all that swashbuckling crap.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:02pm
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Wipe wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Why would you ever use shield in heroics ?
Thf with Sword of Shadows, Greensteel or even Riftmaker and spec for Holy Retribution  and Kotc Cleaves on heroic levels pally.


Flavor, mostly. Defense over DPS. Shield Mastery with a tower shield gives a nice bit of PRR.

That, and if you're taking the 2hf feats for bastard sword, you can switch over to the specified weapons when you need to bring the smackdown.
  

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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #10 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 2:16pm
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Why would you ever use shield in heroics ?
Thf with Sword of Shadows, Greensteel or even Riftmaker and spec for Holy Retribution  and Kotc Cleaves on heroic levels pally.
  
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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 2:40am
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Skyvault, elite version, is lvl 14 and quite nice if you plan to cast arcane spells, due to 0% ASF.
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 3:45am
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TheFifthSock wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 2:40am:
Skyvault, elite version, is lvl 14 and quite nice if you plan to cast arcane spells, due to 0% ASF.

And the fucker is also quite elusive.  I've run that quest many times both heroic and epic hoping for that shield and the RNG hates me.

Levik's Defender, Demonic Slab, and even if it isn't a tower shield Fanion from the frame are good options.
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Digimonk wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #13 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:09am
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Why would you get towershield prof.?

Does UMD+masters touch scrolls not work anymore?
  

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Reply #14 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 5:18am
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Frank wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 3:45am:
And the fucker is also quite elusive.  I've run that quest many times both heroic and epic hoping for that shield and the RNG hates me.

Levik's Defender, Demonic Slab, and even if it isn't a tower shield Fanion from the frame are good options.


Bah... running with loot bots and/or friends makes it drop soon enough.
  
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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #15 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 10:56am
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string table error, tableDID wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:09am:
Why would you get towershield prof.?

Does UMD+masters touch scrolls not work anymore?


Works just fine, am just lazy Tongue get tired of having to re-cast it every time I enter/die/shrine/etc.
  

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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #16 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 10:59am
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Think I'll go with Demonic SLab. Skyvault doesn't look all that impressive.
  

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Re: Best lvl 15 Tower Shield?
Reply #17 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 12:29pm
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string table error, tableDID wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:09am:
Why would you get towershield prof.?

Does UMD+masters touch scrolls not work anymore?

Why wouldn't you?  Quality of life.  Call it laziness or whatever you want but it's not like you're hardcore min/maxing if you're rolling a s&b paladin anyway. 



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