I like to check the DDO facebook page a lot, it's a lot less moderated than the MoBo. Of course, it's been getting shit on the past few weeks, and someone has been in full force trying to convince people that lag is a clientside issue and people "need to fix their computers." These are all, naturally, fake accounts.

Jackson Gibbs -
"Jeremiah just needs to whine about something, since he will not FIX HIS OWN COMPUTER."

"It is a client-side issue, nothing to do with the servers. Your computer, firewall, router, or the infrastructure in between that is the problem."

"you have to adjust your firewall/router settings, to be able to handle the increased throughput from the servers. Cleaning all caches would be advisable. And it is not anything new, whiners whine, just to whine."

"Unfortunately for you, I have to take Lawrence's side here. I have not noticed a difference from before or after yesterday's maintenance. I have run quests and raids, with no lag what so ever. So, it is possible that this 'maintenance' is nothing more than a 'placebo' cure for the whiners."

Lawrence Smith -

"I, also do not experience any lag, before or after today's maintenance. Whiners are going to whine, even if they have to make something up."

"It is programs on those windows users that are causing the issues. I know, I used to have an issue with store. Turned out to be my VMWare Workstation software that was causing the issues. Too many issues, client-side, are being blames on Turbine. To the point they are looking for solutions for problems that do not exist."

"Check to make sure your Java and Flash apps are up to date."

"They actually need to fix/configure their computers/routers to be able to better handle the increased throughput from the new data center. Not that hard, really."

"I happen to see a few people who are stuck walking/running at walls, as I casually stroll on by, no lag on my part. My rig is now considered to be low-end, started out as mid-range:

3.10 gigahertz AMD Athlon II X4 645
12288 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory(12GB)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 610-dual monitors
DELL 1905FP [Monitor]
DELL 1907FP [Monitor]

Nothing special here, and I never suffer from lag, in DDO. If you are, then it is YOUR problem, because it is not something that is across the board."

Anyway, the general stupidity and patterns in speech make it obvious that they're both socks. I don't spend enough time on the MoBo to be able to identify who this might actually be. Anyone have any ideas?

lol, even Turbine now understand ( and acknowledge ) that the issue is on Turbine's side...

Let's do some Logic :

Issue : Lag appeared

What changed : Servers from one datacenter were replaced by other servers in another datacenter. No change occured client side.

End of the discussion: Lag is a Datacenter/Turbine issue.

QED.

I'd be interested to see if there's even increased throughput from the new data center. Not that it matters in them fixing the problems but is that even true that the throughput has increased?

Knight Solaire wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:


I mean, that's kind of what I would think but I'm not interested enough to check. I turned in a single anniversary token so far, did it before anyone had put out the 'list isn't complete' warnings, got the wrong item for that character, and haven't been back in the game since. I can't completely blame the game...I've had RL stuff to do and been playing Fallout 4 with the kids...but it's hard to get motivated to log in when I read from everyone here what a clusterfuck the server move has been.

Flav wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:


Agreed. The only explanation I can think of for the defenders is their brains are lagging in sync with the game so they don't notice it.

Knight Solaire wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:23pm:

more likely getting some type of comp for it, like tp from cordo. I had long assumed they did the same for mobo posters to make the forums appear positive

Knight Solaire wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:55pm:


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lostthenloved wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 10:54pm:


Scuttlebutt is usually right. Sad thing is, by June it will be too late.

Darkrok wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:00pm:


It does look like... but anyway, it's not as if the data from DDO was chocking broadband access... with the increased throughput it might be glutting a V90 56K modem or a mobile broadband ( 3G Base, not HS(D/U)PA ) access... and that's even debatable.

Knight Solaire wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:


Yes... and no... depends of a few parameters, but normally yes.

lostthenloved wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 10:54pm:


Le Sigh.

Any idea what kind of hard ?

They moved to VMs which they did not have before.  Odds are that they have zero staff with any VM experience and either used a vendor to do the initial setup and might have a support contract, or they pressed the most technical person into service at a task they simply aren't good enough at doing.

It's surprisingly easy to mess up the virtual switches on ESX/ESXi servers, although the lag does not seem to me to point at that as a problem.

If they went cheap and are running one of the desktop versions then they are learning that those have a lot less performance capability than the server versions.

like i said, scuttlebutt. so i dont have specifics, i believe he said something to do with routers, they are fixed now though, i have heard 2 things regarding the new data center, i heard that they closed for maintenance (no details) and they weren't actually even hosting ddo yet and the devs lied, and i have heard that they are hosting ddo but not operating at full capacity, both times i was told June for the date it would be rectumfied rectified.

PersonaNonGrata wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 4:46am:

Yeah, this was my thought too. Spring for next day shipping you cheap bastards, your game is dying, you can't afford to wait for it to go on sale and ship by boat from China. It sounds like an excuse to me.

Renegotiating an SLA every 3 months, however would make more sense to me, and that would start June 1.

Waiting to see how IP negotiations went before you spend money, or even trying to plead poverty and get a cheaper deal on IP license renewal, that would also make sense.

But 2 months for hardware? No, not likely.