Frank wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 6:37am:


You think that because you are familiar with what you're talking about and assume others are as well.

OnePercenter wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 8:26am:


I'm sure there are paladins buying cakes and cursing dupers.  Turbine loves them.  They make lag profitable.

Mr Reilly wrote on Apr 13^th, 2016 at 1:10pm:

No, like I've said elsewhere - it still has a solid combat engine and some decent old content and you can ignore a lot of the recent shit if you want. So I'd define idiots more as playing NWO. because I've tried it and in my humble opinion it's not a patch on DDO, even current DDO.

Hopefully the lag improves/reverts to stable-ish usual, but if not then well, everyone has their tolerance level. Mine isn't far off, but I'm deliberately spacing my logins out to avoid unnecessarily annoying myself when nothing appears to have changed. (Let's see how things are after the update today, I suppose.)

You made me think though; it'd be an appropriate goodwill gesture on their part if they offered a coupon for 100 or so res cakes from the store, the good ones too. I get angry at the dying when it's not my fault, not the game, so some free cakes would ease that pain and I could enjoy the game and spend money again. At least until when/if they get a handle on the lag.

Unlikely though, I guess, if their revenue is tumbling from leaving players.

I'm not sure cakes would do much to curb frustrating, because the game is irritating to play when you're lagging even when you're stomping the mobs. Not only that, but cakes do nothing for your gear getting worn and your death timer.

Knight Solaire wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 11:26am:

All true. What the cakes would stop is the feeling that Turdbin doesn't mind lag because it sells cakes. That's just gasoline on the fire. And they should definitely turn off permanent item wear until they fix lag, that's another huge slap in the face.

This isn't about finding an acceptable solution, this is a tourniquet to stop the game from bleeding to death while they get it to the lag hospital. Unfortunately, the ambulance driver is lost and too proud to ask for directions.

There's an NW board but it has very little activity and the top thread is about how much NW sucks.

It was rife with exploits. Their "build your own content!" system worked out exactly as well as you'd expect(E.G. people made a constant stream of sploit' dungeons to reach mac level in days and get top gear)

So, yeah, no, I don't think anyone "went to" NW. At least no one has come back with good things to say.

I actually buy cakes all the time. 150 TPs is worth less to me than a single inventory slot.

Ok, its not actually that bad but I am often too lazy to remember to keep a few on hand, Have tons from Ottos and daily dice. Most of the time though its just easier to repeat the quest. Its very rare that a situation warrants a cake.

Revaulting wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

kum-gulp wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

To hell with cakes as compensation.  That's like being okay with sloppy seconds from a $5 hooker.

Given that we're going on a month and the lag has effectively gutted the end-game raiding scene into nonexistence, they owe everyone a stack of cakes, a big stack of heroic and legendary raid timer bypasses, an Otto's box and a couple of raider's boxes at minimum.  They owe us this because that's roughly what end-gamers have lost out on in the past month if you assume 1-3 raids per night, the lag deaths and all the time wasted trying to run raids during this shit show they created through their lack of testing and general incompetence.

What will we actually get?  Probably a shitty cosmetic and an invisible pet because that's what makes the forum paladins warm and fuzzy.

Rubbinns wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 1:34pm:


We completed an LE Tempest Spine pug last night with some pretty shitty people in it.   That lag was better than last week's holocaust but it's still a long way from fixed.

Bigjunk wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

That's on a Thursday night.  Try it on a weekend at prime time when the other 20 people that haven't quit log in and overload the server.

Defiler ran twice last night.  First run bag lag in beginning.  Second set of archons we lost.  Got all the way to around 132 kills.  Only had lost those two archons.  Ten reinforcements drop, we had none. Two archons drop.  We say forget it focus on reinforcements.  We failed.  It said we lost 5 archons when it should have been only 4.  I've seen 3 sets drop, but they didn't last night. 

We retried.  Lag again same spots but lost no archons and completed. 

Subversion: ran on EE- got to rare salamander.  Go to beat him down and he wasn't there.