So Cordo started a thread about lag, requesting ppl to share what and how and when they experienced it.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/474557-The-latest-on-lag-and-game-perf...

At first I thought: "Omg, turbine is finally taking a full-scale approach" But then I gave it some thoughts based on what he requested from ppl to share:

1. Server
2. Approximate time
3. General class makeup and group composition
4. Size of party/raid group
5. Quest or raid run
6. General experience

Thus considering turbine's past methods we can assume that they are planning to:
1. Close/merge servers
2. Introduce a hidden queue that will kick europeans when they try to log in thru the client at "USA" wake hours, and kick USA people during european wake hours.
3. Nerf warlock, casters, rangers, tempests, rogues
4. Reduce raid groups to a max of 10 ppl as they considered this before
5. Introduce higher drop rates so you can get something in case you make it thru the raid
6. Generally ruin game experience a lot more.

Any other ideas about those concepts?

m4lacka wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 9:46am:


My opinion of your concepts.  I like how you pivoted from Doom to pie in the sky on 5 and then back to Doom again. 

More likely outcome:

1.  Collect a ton of info
2.  Say nothing about what they are doing with it.
3.  A week later make a few changes.
4.  Nominal impact on lag.
5.  Fanbois praise the changes.  Ironclan continues to rant about maintenance mode and license expiring like a dipshit.  Most of the game population is too jaded and lethargic to care either way. 
6.  Go to #1.  Rinse and repeat.

Asheras wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 10:50am:


This may be the most down trodden I have ever seen you.  It's disheartening.

m4lacka wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

No offense taken.

I don't feel desperate.  More like "jaded".

Increasing drop rates benefits players, even if they must suffer the "stick" of lag, therefore it will not happen.


Asheras wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 10:50am:


1.  I'm sure their data shows that they don't need a ton of info, and they certainly don't need it from their customers who are too stupid to understand anything.  Accepting it from them is a placebo.
2.  Spot on - they won't say how they're using any of the metrics they're measuring, nor will they disclose what they've collected (either the metrics itself or the value of the metrics)
3.  "A week later".  You're funny.
4.  Any effect will be indistinguishable from a fresh server reboot.
5.  Spot on.
6.  I think rinsing and repeating is unlikely.


Eventually a motivated customer will collect enough information on their own and dig enough into it to identify the cause and post a solution (Abbot 20th list, editing the userpreferences.ini to increase connection speed, double login solved by pre-loading, several others).

Asheras wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 10:50am:


As I said in Teamspeak when that topic came up... If the licence wasn't already renewed for a few years, Turbine wouldn't have bothered moving the servers to a new datacenter, they would just had left them on the old datacenter until the cutoff date.

As for maintenance mode : *shrug*

Asheras wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 12:54pm:


inept... like the traceroutes towards the gls server were inept after the 10 or 15 first. But, thanks to Turbine wisdom, we can't traceroute the server themselves anymore, so we can't show if there's a real issue in their internal network or if it's just VMs and server misbehaving.

Asheras wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 12:54pm:


Except that they log in through a backdoor that has a direct LAN access to the backend... So they don't hit the frontend interfaces and the customer facing stuff.
( note : this is a really really really wild assed guess, but it wouldn't surprise me )

Asheras wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 10:50am:


FTFY

Flav wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:12pm:


That's a bullshit excuse.  My business runs several cloud applications.  We have a verizon hotspot that connects via 4G and can test our apps on that.  Costs $19.99 per month.  A basic Time Warner internet account also costs about $29.99 per month and is another test source we can use.  Testing via local/dedicated connections to the data center is useful for functional testing, but for performance testing, you need a variety of external connections.  Which are cheap and easy to maintain.

Lots of easy options for that sort of thing.  If worst comes to worst, have a few employees telecommute for an hour or two one day and do performance testing from their home internet.  It's not rocket science.

Fat Jerry is a fucking moron and whoever told him to post that stupid fucking list did so just to shut his fat face up for a few days. All the Jerry's Kids on the mobos lap that shit up like it's drippings from one of Jerry's anal discharges.

Pardon my French

DoRayEgon wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

Right, because there's absolutely no difference between popping your hood and seeing the oil and radiator fluid leaking out of your head and finding systemic problems in software code.

I think everyone knows who the dumb piece of shit is.  If you want to find out also, just look in a mirror.

Turd_Ferguson wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:


This. With a master lag thread on plain sight people will start to post their experiences in it avoiding to fill pages on the forum with

Lag in DW
Still stuck in Korthos
Game unplayable
A plea to sev's mother
She wears combat boots

etc, etc .....

OldCoaly wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

When you can't understand the data you've collected, your data always shows you don't need more data.

OldCoaly wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

And Cordo will promptly ban them for it.

eighnuss wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:


I like how you use the vault as an 'AdultFriendFinder'.

This is how I see it.

They will finally, FINALLY fix every ounce of lag - have everything running optimal. They Game itself will have a rebirth of excitement; people will start talking overly positive about the game. New Graphics will be introduced. Qwijimart will once again become relevant; Strakeln will even contemplate coming back and then......It will all cease to exist because in their ultimate and epic moment of benevolence and marked up intelligence, they will lose their licensing and even fail to go into maintenance mode.

And in the background you will here old man Ironclad ranting I told you! I told you! I told you, I told you.......

And thus we cease to exist.