Meursault wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 10:00am:


There's still a cost involved in moving the servers... Even if they were given the hardware and datacenter space for free, there's the time spent by the on site guys getting the servers configured ( badly ) and somewhat ready for the onslaught of players, as well as the dubious cost of preparing the installs said guys rolled out on the servers. There's the connectivity cost ( adding pseudowires and stiff has a a cost ), and a few more thing...

Overall, even with Free rent and hardware the cost to move something like DDO ( based on what I know of the front end and the back end infrastructure of the game ) is more important than the cost of the 4/5 rack cabinets and the connectivity for 3 months at a datacenter.

Especially when you add the GLS server move and the Web server move to the heap.

It's also a KISS principle : you know the thing is going to be dead in 3 months, why should you bother doing something that will get you some bad image ( you know it's going to be that way since it occured for AC and LoTRO before ), and cost you more money ?

As other said : the game is based on an out of print edition... Why should Hasbro bother killing it as long as they get their share of the revenues each year.

They might consider killing it when the Dungeon and Dragon Movie comes out and if they have something else to put in it's place ( Neverwinter is NOT that something else, and would be killed at the same time ). But Hasbro is not Saul Zaentz ( aka Middle Earth Enterprise ) and they are probably not going to bother, as long as money comes in.

It's not an exclusive license anymore, so there is no incentive to either side not renewing. Turbine stays in business, Hasbro gets a cut for free.

Revaulting wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Ohhh, maybe they'd have to stop making changes? That would be awesome! Kinda crappy place to be stuck right now, but the trend has been solid down for years, the sooner they stop the less damage done.

Revaulting wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:


You gotta look at it form a players point of view. With the blatant lack of communication from anyone at Turbine in the last 2 months let alone the last 5 months about basic home game issues, the suspicions of their tight lipped and nebulous lack of acknowledgement about the licensing issue has only made it a deeper issue. The supposition they're under a legal gag order because of the legal ramifications is substantial but is as loose as Shoemaker's sphincter. It's really just a more substantial target for whack a mole when it comes to the reasoning of why DDO is going down the toilet swirling.

How such a wonderful game with amazing people in the player community like DDO could fall so hard so quickly because of a short handful of individuals that have been with Turbine for such a short time is beyond any logical comprehension. People like my self are struggling to make sense that it takes such wastes of human life like Cordovan, SteelStar, Vargoulle and Severlin that had an opportunity to take such a powerful gift as DDO and it's loyal and bright player base and turn it into the steaming pile of shit it is now is beyond all logic and the stuff of twisted horror novels. The deadline of the licensing and the timing of everything just seemed to be a logical rallying point that many have asked for clarification and just like many other issues, we've gotten nothing. It's all shit. The updates, the promises, the hopes, the future of DDO, just like the people currently running it, it's all shit.

Meursault wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

That would be truly awesome. Sadly, I'm not even sure they'd have to stop changing shit. What if all it means is they can't add anything new? They could keep coming up with shitastic kill mobs -> open door -> repeat -> ???? -> profit! quests forever, but they can't add new monsters, FR or Eberron places, races, or classes.

(Then they bloody well lost the license years ago, didn't they?)


Novalis wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 12:58am:

I get it. You don't know shit about licensing. You don't know how it works, or even who owns what.

That's where you lost me. Your rant makes much more sense when you stop talking as if you know something about licensing.

Novalis wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 4:28pm:

Then you're just refusing to tell me what Turbine would/would not be able to do without a license? Why? Is it because I didn't say "please"?

Asheras wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 9:54am:



Sometimes I don't have a choice Shill, you are either already in the raid or one of your guildies brings you along.  I've even let you join my raids when I was blind LFM'ing for warm bodies, and to be honest even in those cases you're not much worse than the noobs that I have had to carry. 

Point? small server population means that many of us have to play with fuck-wits like yourself, no matter how much of a shill you are. The difference is that we know what to expect when encumbered with a socially retarded spaz like yourself, whereas you have fooled yourself that everyone likes and respects you because you're not hearing the vent-chat about you that you are not included in.

As to you never duping LGS? you and I know that isn't true Shill, not by a long shot 




P.S. before you waste your time trying to assert that you're a great guy everyone loves, and that you don't care about what I say..... Remember that you were the one that had the hard-on to find out who I was in game because you were butthurt about me calling you a shill and fuckwit here on the vault. Secrets out, you do care and you care enough to try and find toon names on Kyber to settle scores PC punk.

Have a great day!

Revaulting wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:


This came up a few years ago.  If the agreement is terminated Turbine will no longer be able to 'utilize' the IP.  This includes both production of new material based on the IP, or continued use and display of the IP.

As stated and ignored, the agreement ends this month.  You can bet your ass they have had an extension already as the paperwork would typically take over 2 weeks with lawyers.  If they didn't renew, they would not be spending development money on new content that they are pushing to Lama etc.

As mentioned by someone else, at this point with competing projects, there is no reason WotC would not renew the agreement and continue to take in revenue based on an old system.  The 4E days where they tried nailing the coffin on previous systems is gone since the return to the roots in 5E.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/08/26/Atari.pdf

Grand wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 2:32pm:


Meh.  Your KNN is showing.   

Grand wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 3:13pm:


EDIT:  I'm kinda done with the back and forth on this topic.  You don't like me.  I don't like you.  There really isn't much else to say that hasn't been covered.

Asheras wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 9:52am:



Oh poor boo-boo finally got the point!

Hey you missed a part of your equation:

Asheras wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 9:52am:

Revaulting wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 11:53am:

If you heard that was a requirement of WTC, then they were ignored.  Because I can take a gate from Eveningstar Caverns to my Ebberon Airship anytime I like.  I can also summon my airship to the Forgotten Realms using an airship beacon.  And I can teleport from FR to Eberron, or word of recall.

You can walk into FR from Eberron, but you cannot just walk into Mordor Eberron from FR.