What is it about this crafting system that people care about?

I'd rather they fix the crafting lag BEFORE they do any updates to it.

But since they pile new problems on top of old problems until nothing fucking works at all, I don't expect that to happen!

somenewnoob wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 3:07pm:


Fixed that for you.

Crafting also used to let you get max available stat bonuses a few levels before you could on RNG. Since you could craft an item with JUST the bonus you wanted and no other crap, the ML would be lower. YOu could even lower it further with Masterful Craftsmanship, and end up with an ML9 +6 stat item.

There was a time, long ago, when random loot was more in line with crafting, when an item like a ring that was JUST a +6 stat went for a lot of money.

I'm sorry, but where and when did they clarify that it wasn't coming in U31?

Just because Lamannia is gonna come up real soon, and they haven't yet made a thread to discuss the changes, doesn't mean they won't slip it in.

I imagine that slowly, but surely, we'll start to see less, and then eventually nothing new in the "Official Turdbin Discussions" section before updates.

When crafting came out you could make most of the best stuff in game which at the time was +6 stat items, holy burst of greater banes, +15 skill (I think you could only do +13 skill, but it was close). Couldn't do vorpal, smiting, disruption, banishing etc, those were still loot gen.

Hopefully if they do something it will bring crafting inline with what we can get nowadays.
But after the monumental fuck up when new loot came out, the chances of them not fucking up the crafting are pretty close to zero.

The LAST fucking thing I want is to see a crafting update that mimics the current loot gen horse shit that doesn't break DR with Chaos/Good/Law effects.

I still use ML20 DQ specials (+5 Holy Burst Cold Iron of Greater Chaotic Outsider Bane Khopeshes) @ 30 for some mobs because I can't be bothered to crunch 4000 frags down to 40 tokens for 2 good bypass augments for the "spare" pair of TF Khops in TR cache.

noamineo wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:



https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/471742-Cannith-crafting-update-being-s...


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That should be enough to crush all of your hopes with EXTREME PREJUDICE


PS: I don't like it either but as others have mentioned a no pass is better than a pass "à la turbine"

noamineo wrote on Apr 27^th, 2016 at 11:03am:

Which of course begs the question why do they need to fuck with loot and crafting at all. If they got them balanced and left them the hell alone it would be better than constantly fiddling with them. We only needed a loot pass because the previous loot pass, which we didn't need, screwed things up so bad.

They do need a crafting pass now because the cumulative effect of the last 2 loot passes brought it wildly out of line with crafting, and it's less damaging to the game to fiddle with crafting than to fiddle with loot again. But overall, they should get them back in line and then leave them both alone.

They need stuff for their resume, I get that, but that doesn't mean the game needed it, or that it was good for the game. That isn't their goal.

Turdbin, stop playin' with it or you'll go blind!

Loot  has been fucked up since Mod 7, when the cap went to 16.  They didn't increment things properly.  They failed again with Mod 9, when the cap went to 20 and epic loot appeared.  Every level cap since then they have progressively made it worse. 

All that said, loot didn't need a total over haul, per se.  Crafting was in worse shape before the new loot pass.  Crafting came out when the cap was 20 and they constantly refused to address it for epic level gear.  That was a huge fail on their part.  Every time the cap raised or they did a loot pass, a crafting pass should have kept it in sync. 

I don't do crafting.  Never really did.  And I don't really care for it.  I prefer to find loot in game.  But I get that some people like it a lot and have really found it to be a fun way to play the game.  If you are going to have the system, then you need to support it and keep it somewhat current.  Otherwise, it is worse than not having it at all.

The crafting update needs to be addressed in communication.  If it is not U31 due to having to switch gears to lag, etc, that's fine.  But just give people a rough time line.  Something.  A "no ETA" is a "fuck you".  That's pretty unsat, imo.

WeHaveLived wrote on Apr 27^th, 2016 at 1:40am:

viadrouw wrote on Apr 28^th, 2016 at 7:48am:


Honestly, they are fucked on crafting.  If they don't update it, the players will hammer them.  If they do update it, some vocal players will hate the new system and hammer them.  There is no scenario where players are happy.

I don't feel bad for them.  They get paid money to make video games.  That's a pretty cool job, imo.  And they have let crafting go too long without addressing it.  So they made this bed.  And crapped the bed.  Now they have to lie in it.