apep wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:29am:

It was long enough ago that I don't remember.  I know I was solo, so I probably had a hire and an owlbear since it was an epic run.  Before they fixed the HP of the brothers I'd park the hires at the first one, whittle it down, then run to the second one and kill it while they finished it off.  The owlbears have great HP, PRR, and a taunt that will let you leave the room w/o pulling the first brother away to despawn.

But I almost always run with a hire when I'm solo, and I've used the 'release/rebuff/re-enter' option several times.  That GoP run was the only time I wasn't able to re-enter.  I haven't done that in quite a while though, so maybe they did a stealth change on how that works.  Or they just managed to break it without even knowing, which they do with a fairly high amount of regularity.  And then rely on their players to inform them about what they broke.  And then ignore it for years or forever.  See: CC Vampirism for just one example.

Meursault wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:49am:


Nigger...rlly?! 

Mr Reilly wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 10:56am:


This.  Turbine incentivized higher difficulties beyond just the bravery bonus.  Simply removing it won’t magically fix the “problem”.

Mr Reilly wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 10:56am:


Sadly, you're right, except maybe that it can't keep new players, as opposed to can't attract them.

Since the quest already rewards players for increased difficulty with xp and loot, why not change bb to reward not dying. That would encourage easier difficulties and possibly grouping.

They should also bring back the XP penalty system. Gods i loved to be stuck at a level forever and needing to redo quests to catch up.

Metal-Beast wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

The in-game advice on character power levels hasn't changed since the game launched.  This is one of Turbine's largest failings, amongst the many others:  They don't have the project management skills needed to make a change and also update all the things that change impacts.  When they run a class pass, that class should have its effectiveness level modified up in the character creation screen.  And/or classes that have been left fallow for years and years should have their effectiveness level modified down in the character creation screen.

Than you'd have fewer noobs (like me, when I started) being told that Clerics are strong soloers (according to the character creation advice) and picking a class that is well and below the effective solo capability of every single class that has had their class pass.

When the game starts out lying to you right from the beginning (and continues with a vengeance) it's no wonder they have a hard time keeping new players.

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

An excellent and recent example of this is their post on the upcoming changes to CC.

It's a very long, detailed post with a lot of lists and explanations.  But it is at 17 pages and counting mostly because of the things which were left out.

Impact to Cannith Challenge gear and Runearms;
Interaction with trapmaking since small essences are going away (no response on that, make your traps now because trapmaking will probably be broken for the next 6 months after NewCC goes live);
Gah, the list goes on and on, I'm not going to belabor the point.

That point being that a competent project manager would have made a list of every possible intersection in the game with Cannith Crafting and Lesser/Greater Essences, and would have been asking the devs at every status meeting for an update on all those actions.  Then, once the action to be taken is decided, a post can be made in the forums which will explain all w/o the need for 17 pages of questions and confusion.

I'll discount them a few pages due to the utter, stunning idiocy of some of the people who have posted in the thread, but the real issue here is that they made an informational post and didn't include all the information.  That just a big FAIL.  I've seen players make more detailed and comprehensive posts on some build they have thought up, which required only a few questions and clarifications or edits.

To be fair, NoWorries, whoever that is (World Designer?) has been fairly responsive in the thread.  But what she (someone in the thread used that pronoun so I'll go with it) hasn't done is update the OP with the new information she has provided, meaning that all new people who stumble across the thread will probably have the same questions about the things which were left out, poorly explained or not explained, etc.  Because most people will just post a question rather than read 17 pages of drivel.  Updating the OP would solve that, and it wouldn't take her much time to do so.

Nor would getting it right in the first place.

Now that you can pause BB, I don't get why this is even a thing.  BB isn't the problem.  The gap between vet/experienced players and new players is the issue.

Even if there was no BB, the gaming experience is too different for the vet/experienced player and the new player.  It's almost like they aren't playing the same game.

And that's the world of MMO's, new players will suck balls against vets ...... how is that not a recognised thing, jesus.

And popping onto a ship is inconvenient? Fucking hell, come on.

They should do away with bravery bonuses and just add that much xp to every 1st time Hard/Elite Quest for everyone.  Done.

DoRayEgon wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 11:01am:

I wish they do this, too. I don't turn it off because I forget that it's off and then never turn it back on.